Open carry (gun policy)

Frank the tank

In the USA whole communities going around opnly carrying guns for "self defence" of course.

Bunch of barm pots I reckon. Not a situation I would ever wish to see over here.

nwallace

Not sure what's worse, openly carrying guns or carrying hidden chibs.

brin

just saw it on the news, why the president of the right to arm brigade needs a gun is beyond me, he was huge.

SteppenHerring

Yes, it's a daft saying of the NRA, but guns don't kill people, people kill people. To be more specific, there are far more guns per head in Switzerland than there are in the US yet there is far more gun crime in the US. So actually the saying should be "Guns don't kill people, Americans kill people".

Smokin Joe

Our tough gun laws must be the envy of the world, restricting their use to teenage drug dealers.

lae

SteppenHerring wrote:

So actually the saying should be "Guns don't kill people, Americans kill people".

And are therefore too dangerous to be trusted with a gun.

finchy

Smokin Joe wrote:

Our tough gun laws must be the envy of the world, restricting their use to teenage drug dealers.

I'm sure that when the Americans are picking the bodies of massacred teenagers off the school floor they might envy us slightly.

eltonioni

SteppenHerring wrote:

Yes, it's a daft saying of the NRA, but guns don't kill people, people kill people. To be more specific, there are far more guns per head in Switzerland than there are in the US yet there is far more gun crime in the US. So actually the saying should be "Guns don't kill people, Americans kill people".

I've seen a graph somewhere showing that Switzerland has an exceptionally high rate of gun deaths so there is a direct correlation between having guns around the house and getting killed by one.

Obviously people do the killing but if they don't have guns in the first place they don't use 'em to kill 'em.



Update, I found it

skyd0g

In the USA they have the right to bear arms, in Canada the have the right to bare breasts.
I know where I'd prefer to be. 8)

_Brun_

Err, that graph shows that gun deaths are generally proportional to ownership in most countries, including Switzerland.

The exception, by a massive margin, is the US.


Edit: What's with the Belgians? Never had them down as crazy shooty types.

crankycrank

A few months ago the news ran a story here about a mans' dog that somehow managed to shoot his owner with his own rifle. Perfect. The NRA will probably argue that the dog should have been trained in gun safety.

Anonymous

This is too dodgy. There have been moments when I have been so angry that if I had a gun I'd have probably used it and then gone, Oh shite. Glad we don't have this capacity in this country.

This trend of gun carrying is too stupid for words, then again it is in the land of the free...... :roll:

blackpanther

i think a blade is more personal

Bunneh

We'd be screwed if we got a zombie invasion though! *scared* I'm sure us Brits can kill the zombies with our witt and sarcasm

crimsondynamo

Guns don't kill people, rappers do,
I saw it in a documentary on BBC2...

Frank the tank

No good shooting "gangsta rappers" it just gives them more street cred.

eltonioni

_Brun_ wrote:

Err, that graph shows that gun deaths are generally proportional to ownership in most countries, including Switzerland.

I think that's exactly what I said. If you have guns around people get killed with them. I can't think of a better reason not to have them around.

il_principe

To clarify as well - the Swiss situation is slightly different as their army is primarily a militia, and militia personnel are required by law to keep their military issued weapon(s) at home, this skews the figures somewhat.

Gun ownership in Turkey is huge as well - estimated at 8 million. Given the Turkish temperament this is not particularly healthy, although at least all men are required to serve in the military and have been given some firearms training.

I'll never understand the yanks attitude, but the NRA are so powerful that the situation is unlikely to change.

bompington

Credit to the Kiwis for the low figures - is it anything to do with compulsory helmets?

skyd0g

bompington wrote:

Credit to the Kiwis for the low figures - is it anything to do with compulsory helmets?

No, they just don't count sheep.

Seanos

Smokin Joe wrote:

Our tough gun laws must be the envy of the world, restricting their use to teenage drug dealers.

So only teenage drug dealers are allowed to carry guns? Wow, I thought the law applied to them too.

Stewie Griffin

I have to be walked from the start of the Police cordon to my House at least twice a Year due to teenagers and their penchant toward "bussing shot after Man". The last time it happened I suggested to the Policeman that they send them on a course on how to shoot properly, if they hit each other a bit more often then after a while they will all be dead and the rest of the neighbourhood and the Police could get some peace. I just turn the TV up when it happens now

crumbschief

I just hope it doesn't become compulsory here,i know it won't fit in the water bottle with the pump.

spen666

skyd0g wrote:

In the USA they have the right to bear arms, in Canada the have the right to bare breasts.
I know where I'd prefer to be. 8)

I thought the Canadians Armed bears?

al2098

Dam it, the Americans are right this time.
When the aliens invade with thier photon mass reducers and anti-matter phasers, they will be the first line of defence. After all, they always attack America first.. :shock:
We can't even fight back.

finchy

Bunneh wrote:

We'd be screwed if we got a zombie invasion though! *scared* I'm sure us Brits can kill the zombies with our witt and sarcasm

Let's hope they aren't American zombies then...

Toomanybikes

spen666 wrote:

skyd0g wrote:

In the USA they have the right to bear arms, in Canada the have the right to bare breasts.
I know where I'd prefer to be. 8)

I thought the Canadians Armed bears?

??????


I'm all for the bare breasts mentioned earlier.

dilemna

I'll be okay. I wear Lyrca 8) .

realALBERTAN

same folks talk about how health care is not a right...

rolf_f

Il Principe wrote:

I'll never understand the yanks attitude, but the NRA are so powerful that the situation is unlikely to change.

Apparently it is a bit - I think it was on Stephen Frys US trip that I saw something about how gun ownership is on the decline as a result of which the gun manufacturers are getting a bit desperate - eg manufacturing guns specifically designed to appeal to children/girls etc.



Can only live in hope.......
Incidentally, the plot of deaths against gun ownership would be interesting if subdivided according to state. Should be very easy to see which states have low gun ownership.

nwallace

Any chance of mixing in Knife and Chib deaths as well?
Wondering if the availability of Guns makes a difference to the number killed by knifes.