I Miss My Hardtail :o(

CowboyBob

After spending the last 3 years putting together a Scott FS Project bike, I'm not sure I like it.

I picked up a cheap Scott G-Zero P1 Frame back in 2007 with the aim of building it up.
Reba race Folks, Shimano XT/LX mixed gears and brakes (Hydraulic disc). RaceFace Evolve Cranks.

It rides very well, but Mrs CowboyBob has just got a Scott YZ1 as a starter bike (only £224 for the 09 model). it arrived today and I have assembled for her but while I was sitting on it it reminded me of my old YZ3 and how much fun I had on it's indistructable frame.

My Full Sus rides well and looks the part but I miss my having a YZ to use and abuse.
I think it's a bit like having a posh bird but hankering after a right slutty bird who likes it rough and dirty.

Confused of Edinburgh

Eskimo427

I know what you mean about the bird, not sure about the bike though!

scale20

I know what you mean. I will allways have a HT in my line-up 8)

The Northern Monkey

HT FTW

CowboyBob

I could always "Borrow" the YZ for the odd ride now and again ..... and kick its back door in.

ride_whenever

the yz are an utter sceram that's for sure, had one ages ago, which got knicked so i ended up buying a mates 1 to build up as a play bike. Seriously silly!

CowboyBob

I feel an other Project is no the horizon!

al2098

Hardtail?
Get a good full sus and never look back.

Northwind

For me it's the hardtail I'd keep and the full suss I'd sell, if I had to sell one of 'em. But the best option is to have one of each. Or 2 of each And a rigid, and a BMX, and a road bike. And a downhill bike of course.

Anonymous

Northwind wrote:

For me it's the hardtail I'd keep and the full suss I'd sell, if I had to sell one of 'em. But the best option is to have one of each. Or 2 of each And a rigid, and a BMX, and a road bike. And a downhill bike of course.

didnt you know, the new n=n+1 is n=n

Northwind

Where n also = lots

Splottboy

Ok, I've had the same thing happen , today.
I've made up a Norco Bigfoot, 70 quid 2nd hand frame, rigid 30 quid forks, 100 quid g/set...

Did a 1.5hr very hard quiet road, lanes, trail and slate quarry, and it felt great!

Yeah, I couldn't take the descents as fast/hard as on my 5in travel rig, but, it was a blast.
I climbed 99% of the trail and with a Thudbuster, didn't get too hammered, butt-wise.

It made me search for the best lines, easiest and safest route and "give" with my arms/legs.
Took me back to 1986, and my first real bike, Coyote hardtail...dusky pink!

Making me SERIOUSLY reconsider, do I really need a new full sus, or get a hardtail trail bike that does it all????

tlw1

Splottboy wrote:

Ok, I've had the same thing happen , today.
I've made up a Norco Bigfoot, 70 quid 2nd hand frame, rigid 30 quid forks, 100 quid g/set...

Did a 1.5hr very hard quiet road, lanes, trail and slate quarry, and it felt great!

Yeah, I couldn't take the descents as fast/hard as on my 5in travel rig, but, it was a blast.
I climbed 99% of the trail and with a Thudbuster, didn't get too hammered, butt-wise.

It made me search for the best lines, easiest and safest route and "give" with my arms/legs.
Took me back to 1986, and my first real bike, Coyote hardtail...dusky pink!

Making me SERIOUSLY reconsider, do I really need a new full sus, or get a hardtail trail bike that does it all????

Thats why I got rid of my full sus Marin Mount Vision & got the P7 - just love the involvement

The Northern Monkey

8)

Glad its not just me any more

tlw1

bigbenj_08 wrote:

8)

Glad its not just me any more

agree............. though I do keep thinking about getting a five & turning the P7 into a single speed :oops:

weeksy59

The answer is... you bought the wrong FS.

FS's do not need to be sit back in an armchair type comfort with a high front end and a load of bob and weave going on.

CowboyBob

weeksy59 wrote:

The answer is... you bought the wrong FS.

FS's do not need to be sit back in an armchair type comfort with a high front end and a load of bob and weave going on.

I think I bought into the hype around FS bikes too much.
The bike is right for what I like, XC and Town.

joshtp

of cource you do! HT's are more fun, just as capable, and more enjoyable. they are ALWAYS better

no, seriouly, i do pref HT's, but thats for my type of riding, and my style, and my prefereces. Many do find HT's to be more fun, and many think fs is the dogs. its very personal, if i was you sell the FS and buy a sweet Trail Ht with longer travel forks. They are like the ultimate fun machines IMO.

.blitz

There's always a place for a HT - in the canal :twisted:

VWsurfbum

i have been riding HT through the winter, going back to the FS last sunday was the weirdest feeling, i would still say the FS is more an allrounder and i still wouldnt consider taking the HT to wales?
I have ridden your FS and i find they do bob alot, but one of the guys i ride with loves his though?
Get yourself a genius like mine and have best of both worlds!

CowboyBob

Also I have found that although the FS is light I end up having to carry a shed load of locks to secure it. A bit counter productive.

CowboyBob

I've given it two months riding and have come to the conclusion that the FS will get stripped down and a HT will rise like a phoenix from the ashes.

beanieripper

Why on earth wouldnt you take a hardtail to wales???? thats ridiculous, me and a load of mates ride afan and cody every year, weve all got hardtails, my chameleon will embarass many f/s on trail centre stuff..... no exactly massive freeride is it.... hardtails are for me just more fun 99.9 % of the time... but i accept for full on downhill f/s is quicker....wales is great on a hardtail...

Anonymous

hardtails are the best to be fair. i love them very much.

Splottboy

Mine, will be ready Monday.
Or tuesday, or, when the olives from the brake company arrrive.

"Please, Dear Lord of Darkness, prey that my bits will be securely posted.
Then will I once more ride the steel grey hills under a blood red sky, Oh Great One!
This will be my greatest, bestest challenge, King of All Beasts !!! "

There...that should do it.

floosy

Having now ridden fs for 2 years.... Ive gone back to my early 90`s fully rigid bike.
Its plenty of bike for round here... (with big low pressure front tyre)

but am going to strip down the orange 5 and build it into a HT..(but cant decide which yet)

Dave.

Happy Harry

Dammit! If everybody gets hardtails there will be

Nothing to argue about
No individuality
Not enough to go round

I'll get a FS. Maybe two...

popstar

To this date, I am very happy with FS. After getting bored, only if I will ever do, then most probably would get some weird and raddest new generation type school Ragley HT just for that crisper feeling of the trail.

But to some point there is truth in it, HT does have it's own place and should be included in a true man's fleet.

Mynameisdann

Ill get rigid forks with a rear shock just to be strange.

Anonymous

I have never had a FS and never am going to get one

Anonymous

RichardJiles wrote:

I have never had a FS and never am going to get one

good man.