Odd question: redrilling cleat holes...

Pokerface
Pokerface Posts: 7,960
edited March 2010 in Workshop
Not sure if anyone has ever come across this - but I want to re-drill the cleat holes on one of my shoes (Sidi Genius 6.6 with full carbon sole) to move the cleat position backwards by a few inches. Close to the middle of the shoe. (It's to accommodate a disability)


Has anyone had any experience with re-drilling the holes in a custom position? Or know anyone that could do it? It's not as easy as just drilling new holes as you need something threaded to go in them I think.

Any help appreciated!

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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    PF - I haven't done this but if you search t'internet for "midsole cleats" - Joe Friel, among others, has been championing the use of a mid-sole positioned cleat. I can't recall the exact site / thread, but I recall posters showing how they had modified their own shoes to achieve something along the lines you are after.
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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    LangerDan wrote:
    PF - I haven't done this but if you search t'internet for "midsole cleats" - Joe Friel, among others, has been championing the use of a mid-sole positioned cleat. I can't recall the exact site / thread, but I recall posters showing how they had modified their own shoes to achieve something along the lines you are after.

    Thanks - will have a search for it.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    It would also seem like you will need to figure out how the remove, relocate, and
    refasten the metal threaded thingys.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    dennisn wrote:
    It would also seem like you will need to figure out how the remove, relocate, and
    refasten the metal threaded thingys.

    Not so much remove and relocate - but just straight up replace would be fine.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Pokerface wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    It would also seem like you will need to figure out how the remove, relocate, and
    refasten the metal threaded thingys.

    Not so much remove and relocate - but just straight up replace would be fine.

    I really have no clue as to how these items are fastened to the sole. Maybe embedded in the molding process???? In which case installing new could be just a bit difficult. :wink:
  • When Look pedals first came out virtually all the cleat hole drilling / installing was DIY because the shoe manufacturers hadn't caught up with demand. I did it with my shoes, but this was back in the days when soles weren't so super-stiff and were easier to work with. For the threading you had a metal insert supplied that sat flush with your feet inside the shoe, with a threaded cylinder that accepted the shoeplate bolt; they had 3 little claws that dug into the sole of the shoe (but not your foot hopefully) to stop them moving. You had a template to get the hole positions, these days I guess you'd just be guided by the existing holes in the sole.

    Not sure if this is any help - at least it shows it was possible back then, and even expected by the manufacturer.
  • Eddy S
    Eddy S Posts: 1,013
    You should be able to get parts to re-attach cleats in a new position. Just as example, here are some parts available from Exustar - http://www.exustar.com/shoeparts.php - items like the cleat nuts or cleat plates might be of use to you.
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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Eddy S wrote:
    You should be able to get parts to re-attach cleats in a new position. Just as example, here are some parts available from Exustar - http://www.exustar.com/shoeparts.php - items like the cleat nuts or cleat plates might be of use to you.

    Thank you - that is very useful.


    FWIW - the best solution appears to be to use MTB pedals as you only need to redrill 2 holes and you can position the cleats right in the mid-sole.

    There may be structural issues, but it can (and has been) done.