Fly tipping and litter

GiantMike
GiantMike Posts: 3,139
edited March 2010 in The bottom bracket
I cycled from Nottingham to Coningsby (Lincs) today and I was amazed by the amount of litter and fly-tipped rubbish at the side of the road.

Somebody had dumped about a ton of baby things! Every 30m or so there was a drink bottle, a MacDonalds carton or crisp bag.

How can people have so little interest in trying to keep this country tidy. Why can't people drive to a dump or take their litter home?
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  • drummondjhn
    drummondjhn Posts: 175
    MY PET HATE gets right on ma tits would jail everyone of them
    Life is not a spectator sport
  • Crapaud
    Crapaud Posts: 2,483
    The older I get, the more littering offends me. I doesn't bother me much in the city, but just one piece of litter in the countryside can set me off on one.

    I noticed, last week, on a regular training route, that now that the snow's melted there's a lot of litter by the side of the road. Most of it appeared to be empty energy drink bottles. The road's a favourite with local cyclists - I just hope it's not them.

    Grrrr ... :evil:
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  • Dave SS
    Dave SS Posts: 15
    GiantMike wrote:
    Every 30m or so there was a drink bottle, a MacDonalds carton or crisp bag.

    up here in the North East you see 30 pieces of litter per metre, think yourself lucky :cry:
    What makes it seem even worse is when you've been through parts of Europe where litter is almost non-existent. Why do Brit's have no pride in their country?
  • Bunneh
    Bunneh Posts: 1,329
    The only people I see dropping litter are scrotes. They have no pride in themselves and thus have no pride in the place they live. They drive about in their Corsas with a Staffie dog in the back, lobbing their crap everywhere.

    I also hate spitting, it's not needed by anyone walking around. I can understand if you're exercising and need to clear your throat, and it's done discretely but some just spread their gob everywhere, it's horrible!
  • whyamihere
    whyamihere Posts: 7,715
    I saw something that infuriated me last week. A man was standing directly next to a bin. Couldn't have got closer to it without standing on top. However, when he had unwrapped his chewing gum and put it into his giant slobbering gob, the wrapper just went on the ground.

    How lazy can you get?
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Real cyclists use proper bike waterbottles - they don't lob energy bottles - thatll be chavvy nova driving kids.
    I have seen sportif riders lobbing gel wrappers though - inexcusable and they should be hung by their danglies.
  • People fling litter out of car windows after buying snacks in petrol stations. Then cyclists get blamed by the Daily Wail.
  • whyamihere wrote:
    I saw something that infuriated me last week. A man was standing directly next to a bin. Couldn't have got closer to it without standing on top. However, when he had unwrapped his chewing gum and put it into his giant slobbering gob, the wrapper just went on the ground.

    How lazy can you get?
    It's not laziness, it's stupidity: he hadn't made the connection.
  • whyamihere wrote:
    I saw something that infuriated me last week. A man was standing directly next to a bin. Couldn't have got closer to it without standing on top. However, when he had unwrapped his chewing gum and put it into his giant slobbering gob, the wrapper just went on the ground.

    How lazy can you get?
    It's not laziness, it's stupidity: he isn't able to make the connection between the wrapper in his hand and the bin next to him.
  • Ands
    Ands Posts: 1,437
    I was in the car today waiting at the lights and the passenger in the car in front hurled some rubbish out of the window. I beeped my horn and promptly got glared at by the lot of them (meatheads).

    I get infuriated by people who flick cigarette ends everywhere - I:m sure half these people wouldn't throw sweet wrappers around (would they?), so why do they think cigarette butts are any different? :roll:
  • Ands wrote:
    I was in the car today waiting at the lights and the passenger in the car in front hurled some rubbish out of the window. I beeped my horn and promptly got glared at by the lot of them (meatheads).

    I get infuriated by people who flick cigarette ends everywhere - I:m sure half these people wouldn't throw sweet wrappers around (would they?), so why do they think cigarette butts are any different? :roll:

    I don't mind smokers, but when they're too lazy and stupid to get up and empty the car ashtray into a bin and they tip the entire contents out of the window into the street, that pîsses me off. They're turning their mess into our mess.
  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    Ands wrote:
    I was in the car today waiting at the lights and the passenger in the car in front hurled some rubbish out of the window. I beeped my horn and promptly got glared at by the lot of them (meatheads).

    I get infuriated by people who flick cigarette ends everywhere - I:m sure half these people wouldn't throw sweet wrappers around (would they?), so why do they think cigarette butts are any different? :roll:

    I don't mind smokers, but when they're too lazy and stupid to get up and empty the car ashtray into a bin and they tip the entire contents out of the window into the street, that pîsses me off. They're turning their mess into our mess.
    i know someone who threw a cigi out of his car window in nottingham, a traffic warden saw him and a few days later a fine of about £80 landed on his doormat.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    rake wrote:
    Ands wrote:
    I was in the car today waiting at the lights and the passenger in the car in front hurled some rubbish out of the window. I beeped my horn and promptly got glared at by the lot of them (meatheads).

    I get infuriated by people who flick cigarette ends everywhere - I:m sure half these people wouldn't throw sweet wrappers around (would they?), so why do they think cigarette butts are any different? :roll:

    I don't mind smokers, but when they're too lazy and stupid to get up and empty the car ashtray into a bin and they tip the entire contents out of the window into the street, that pîsses me off. They're turning their mess into our mess.
    i know someone who threw a cigi out of his car window in nottingham, a traffic warden saw him and a few days later a fine of about £80 landed on his doormat.

    Good.
  • antikythera
    antikythera Posts: 326
    cougie wrote:
    ...I have seen sportif riders lobbing gel wrappers though - inexcusable and they should be hung by their danglies....

    Did the Argus last year (Sth Africa), where they have a prize draw and the only way to enter is to deposit your trash at the end of the ride.

    Mind you, in general the place is a lot cleaner than the UK. I put it down to self-respect.... and the monkeys would become even more unbearable :D
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    On my drive into my clubrun yesterday I passed some serious fly tipping. It must have happened overnight and the rubbish was half way across the country lane on the inside of a bend. I had to flash a car going the other way to stop them ploughing into it :x
  • zanes
    zanes Posts: 563
    Pross wrote:
    On my drive into my clubrun yesterday

    Fallen out with your club mates? :lol:
  • Cressers
    Cressers Posts: 1,329
    edited March 2010
    Was fly-tipping as much as problem before the introduction of the Landfill Tax and the Licensed Waste Carrier regulations?
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    Agree with this. On my ride yesterday around NE Kent the amount of fly tipping was phenomenal.

    Litter seems to be fast food wrappers, coke cans and plastic bottles.

    What gets me you can take this junk to the local tip for free.
  • Yep, can't stand it, lazy selfish people making it all someone else's problem. Probably the same people that whinge about taxes being so high, not realising that someone gets paid to clean up the mess.
  • tri-sexual
    tri-sexual Posts: 672
    ask any council and they will tell you that prosecution rates for flytippers are increasing year on year and that their hard line attitude towards the problem is making a marked difference. what they cant or wont say is that is the nature of these "crimes" - they include prosecutions against householders who overfill wheelie bins," incorrect" sorting of recycling waste, taking out the weekly/ fortnightly household rubbish out on the wrong day and other relatively minor "crimes".
    the real criminals who dump tons ( and i mean tons) are hardly ever caught. these guys dump lorry loads in laybys or they break into secure lockups and carparks late at night and in the space of a few hours will completely fill these areas from the back all the way to the front gates. this cost the land owners tens of thousands to clear only for the same thing to reoccur weeks later - SOME (not all) of these contractors asked to clear the rubbish are the same ones dumping it in the first place.
    there was one success story recently, a guy dumped lorry loads of waste under a flyover in bristol in broad DAYLIGHT, he was caught because someone managed to get video evidence. this was very rare and prosecution and convictions for these serial criminals are near non existant.
  • What if you catch someone flytipping?

    Probable outcome = Eden Lake :shock:
  • awallace
    awallace Posts: 191
    I live 2 milles fom a tip and people dive to country lanes 4 miles away to dump it! They cant be lazy just dumb!
  • crown_jewel
    crown_jewel Posts: 545
    We truly are two peoples separated by a common language. What is fly tipping? I assume a crisp bag would be a bag of potato chips or some such?
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    We truly are two peoples separated by a common language. What is fly tipping? I assume a crisp bag would be a bag of potato chips or some such?
    No, that's a poke of chips :wink:
  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    edited March 2010
    Driving along the A52 towards Nottingham me and Mrs Bagpuss both noticed
    d the litter along the side of the carriage ways .It looks a tip :x
    Having driven across Europe many times we have both always observed how clean every where is.
    One word causes this ;Pride in your Country :!: :!:
    bagpuss
  • Porgy
    Porgy Posts: 4,525
    If you ride around in north Kent you see flytipped rubish everywhere. In every stream, every river, alongside every road.

    By coincidence North Kent is where the most abusive drivers live IME.

    I saw an area the other day with signs saying that enforcement cameras were in place: NO FLYTIPPING. underneath the sign was a pile of crap that someone had flytipped.

    When I was younger - if I saw someone fling rubiish out of their car I'd fling it back in just as they began to drive off. It was fun, but I've not got the energy any more - plus - I donl;t really want to be beaten up. i used to be a bit faster on me legs than i am now.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Same here. Came off the M62 en route to XScape a couple of weeks back and the rubbish on the sides of the slip roads was grim.

    Went skiing in France last week and although there were plenty of people, fast food outlets and such, very very little litter.
  • Splottboy
    Splottboy Posts: 3,695
    Yep, at Beddgelert Forest on Sunday too.

    Empty cans, bottles, paper, sweet wrappers, food containers at the main Carpark.

    Then, a few black bags dumped alongside the new railway track.
    Could be related to many "loggers" working there recently, as I've not noticed so much rubbish in nearly 20yrs of riding there.
  • Alain Quay
    Alain Quay Posts: 534
    Yes, Britain is dismal when it comes to litter. fear of nannying, but nannying - and fines
    - are needed. It is 40 yrs behind Australia in this regard - in the 1960s there
    we have a long term campaign ' do the right thing' which was very effective.
  • garrynolan
    garrynolan Posts: 560
    We truly are two peoples separated by a common language. What is fly tipping? I assume a crisp bag would be a bag of potato chips or some such?

    Flytipping = dumping household rubbish up to and including furniture and electrical goods at the side of the road or similar - anywhere except a municpal dump.
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