Weight of a Trek Madone 5.9 Series 2010

relanium
relanium Posts: 487
edited March 2010 in Road buying advice
Not sure if this is the right section to be asking about this, but does anyone know what the weight is of the new Trek Madone 5.9 Series 2010.

Thanks.

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  • cyclingpunk
    cyclingpunk Posts: 368
    Depending on size they are are not too shabby. Although a bit difficult to compare as you save weight not having BB cups and the seat post is very light too. My 5.2 was around 1550g in size 54 and the build weight was under 6.8kg. I could save a fair bit more weight too if I wanted but I decided to stop!
  • cyclingpunk
    cyclingpunk Posts: 368
    Depending on size they are are not too shabby. Although a bit difficult to compare as you save weight not having BB cups and the seat post is very light too. My 5.2 was around 1550g in size 54 and the build weight was under 6.8kg. I could save a fair bit more weight too if I wanted but I decided to stop!
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    mine is a size 58.
    Why I'm asking is I had it weighed today and the scales said 16.1lbs and I thought that could not be right for a Madone 5.9. It should be lighter, right?
    Especially with DA & Ultegra bits and DA 7850 CL wheels.
  • cyclingpunk
    cyclingpunk Posts: 368
    Was that with pedals/cages etc. Sounds a bit high but then there is a lot of stuff that can make a big difference. I custom built mine so not sure what comes on them as standard. Small things like tyres, inner tubes, finishing kit add up real quick. I swapped some bits over to SRAM Red and got some new brakes and pedals. Shaved off around 600g so on that basis it probably sounds about right.
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    Yeah with Ultegra pedals, no bottle cages on at the moment.
    Its mostly as it came from shop except for the DA wheels. Not changed anything else yet.
    I find it rather heavy for a £3k bike 16.1lbs.

    I want to get it down to 15lbs if I can.

    All I can change is:-
    Ultegra STI levers.
    Ultegra Calipers.
    Bontrager RL Saddle.
    Bontrager RXL Stem.
    Bontrager Alloy Blade Bars.
    And the Ultegra Pedals.
  • aogan
    aogan Posts: 52
    What's with Trek not admitting to or publishing the weights of their bikes on the website? - Their faq is full of questions about frameset weights and no answers.

    Seems like a pretty straight forward part of a standard spec list to me.
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    I guess if Trek published the weights of the bikes no one would buy them. You probably can buy something a lot better spec than Treks for the money.
  • cyclingpunk
    cyclingpunk Posts: 368
    You should be able to cut a fair bit of weight off mate. I would look at the saddle, bars and stem, brakes, pedals, tyres and inner tubes. If you want a really really light trek buy a 6 series. I am more than happy with my 5.2 and under 6.8 kilos is plenty light enough for me. I could shave another 200-300grams off for around £300 but I have to stop somewhere :lol:
  • cyclingpunk
    cyclingpunk Posts: 368
    Oh and I would not bother with the Dura Ace shifters TBH... if you have the newer Ultegra ones I would suggest it to be a lot of money for tiny gains :?
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    I'm thinking about changing these:-
    Bontrager RXL Stem.
    Bontrager Alloy Blade Bars.
    But any suggestions on what's a good bar & stem.

    Yeah I have the new 6700 Ultegra STI's.
  • cyclingpunk
    cyclingpunk Posts: 368
    I really would put your money else where in that case. I doubt you will tell any difference in function.

    I like my FSA combo. The bars are very comfy and the stem is nice, I would happily recommend them. I also picked up some 3T carbon cars from ebay at a bargain orice of £30ish. Think they are all gone now but they are very good too. I previously had Ritchy WCS stuff that was not that nice IMO.

    Try not to get too held up on the weight thing, I am not sure I can tell the difference when I shaved 600g off. The only time I have really felt a difference was when I went for the Dura Ace wheels, after that I would say the best upgrades I made were putting on Pro Race 3's and Koolstop Salmon brake pads.
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    The lighest bike isn't always the best bike. I bet your Trek rides very well in ways that weight is not a factor.

    16.1 lbs ain't too bad for that spec. Obviously you're looking for that 6.8kg Pro minimum weight. I hate to say it but the pro's don't use Ultegra. Anyway, there's plenty of ways to get you bike down to 15lbs.

    Breaks are usually an easy target for weight savings. Planet X even do some pretty light CNC'd breaks for around £100. Get some Koolstops or Swissstops in them and you'll have equal breaking performance but with 100g less weight. Another easy target is wheels skewers. Again Planet X do some fairly light ones as do KCNC (both 44g vs. Dura Ace 125g). Then look at saddles bars e.t.c. and you could probably get sub 15lbs very quickly. Latex tubes and high end tyres are also easy targets like cyclingpunk said.
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    Thanks guys for your advice, at the moment I have my winter tires (Conti 4 seasons) on my DA 7850 but when summer finally arrives I shall be putting Pro 3 Race on.

    So far I have shaved 1.5lbs from my calculations from old bits to new.....

    Old Components:-
    Ultegra Pedals 317g
    Ultegra Calipers 317g
    Continental Grand Prix 460g Pair
    Ultegra STI Levers 447g
    Bontrager RL Saddle 220g
    Dura Ace Skewers 125g
    Bontrager RXL Stem 120g
    Bontrager Alloy Blade Bars 299g

    New Components:-
    Speedplay X1 Titanium 150g
    Ultralight CNC Calipers 205g
    Michelin Pro 3 Race 400g Pair
    Dura Ace STI Levers 379g
    Selle Italia SLR Kit Carbonic 125g
    KCNC Quick Release Skewers 44g Pair
    Deda Zero 100 Stem 107g
    Deda 215 Shallow 215g
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    Nice work. Well the Deda stuff will be heavier than the claimed weight but still light and very good quality.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,313
    Everything will be heavier than the claimed weight, including the frame. If Trek published a frame weight they'd almost certainly do the same as their competitors and publish the raw carbon weight, i.e. without bb sleeve, dropouts, paint etc.
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    Ive used Deda stuff before, really comfortable bars, was not sure on bars & stem especially for £100 for both.... If anyone has any suggestions on bars & stem let me know.

    Never used Speedplay before, I'm a shimano person myself but ive heard there really good for your knees :) It was a choice between Speedplay or Look keo carbon with TI axles.
  • cyclingpunk
    cyclingpunk Posts: 368
    The CNC brakes are fab although I am having a problem getting the rear sharp. They look wicked. As you may have seen I have them, I also have the look Keo Max 2 Carbons and they have impressed me. I did look at the speed plays too for comfort but settled on the looks.

    Post some pics up when you are done
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    I've got a Zero 100 stem and it's great. Stiff light and looks good.
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    Does anyone know if Bontrager quote the exact weights of their products on their website or are they heavier than stated.
  • dave_oc
    dave_oc Posts: 46
    Surely spending £300 on Dura Ace shifters to save 68g is madness!! :?
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    £275 from Planet X, I'll be selling the Ultegra ones I have on now so I'm not breaking the bank :)
    Im recycling the parts which I don't need.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    You need to be on the weight weenies website - they're nuts about stuff like this.

    Weight isnt really an issue on a bike. Theres no way the difference between actual weights (and the same item will vary anyway) and published weights would make a noticeable difference on bike. Fill your water bottle up and thats 750gr that you've added.
  • Lillywhite
    Lillywhite Posts: 742
    cougie wrote:
    Weight isnt really an issue on a bike.

    Unless the excess weight is on the bike rider. :lol:
  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    I weigh 68kg :)