Attacking While on a Toilet Break SPOILER

cyclecraig

Just read that there are a lot of suggestions from different riders at THE TOUR OF OMAN that a group attacked while current leader EBH was taking a comfort break.

Although there is no rule against this it seems below the belt to me!!! :evil:

EBH lost over a minute and any chance of victory

THOUGHTS WELCOME

mididoctors

cyclecraig wrote:

THOUGHTS WELCOME

spoiler in the title?

Team Banana Spokesman

spoiler in the title FFS! some of us have only seen st.2

ronthechef

Bet he was well p11ssed off





























I'll get me coat

blazing_saddles

Spoiler.
24 hours is hard enough as it is.
So far managed it.........until now.

acidstrato

if you wait till the last 50k why should other riders give a fuck..should have just pished himself

afx237vi

acidstrato wrote:

if you wait till the last 50k why should other riders give a fark..should have just pished himself

I tend to agree. If you're wearing the leader's jersey, either stop when everyone stops, or don't stop at all. Peeing whilst still pedalling is a valuable skill for most cyclists to learn.

Pokerface

You guys are hard core (with the spoilers and not wanting to know what happened, etc).

The Tour of Oman! Who knew it was such a big event!? :shock:

Pokerface

P.S> I'd have wee'd myself rather than give up the jersey. Can always get clean clothes on before the podium presentation.

chickenkiev

it was payback according to Roger Hammond....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/oman-pe ... aggression

gsk82

roger hammonds coming across as a right bitter arsehole

Bernie S

Didn tone team manager say that all the machinations of getting riders from other teams out of their contracts etc was going to backfire on Sky once the season had started

moray_gub

Team Banana Spokesman wrote:

spoiler in the title FFS! some of us have only seen st.2

To be fair its two days later and if you havent caught up yet then thats too bad really. Dont know how many times this has to be said.............visit a pro race forum and you will find out the result end of story.

moray_gub

gsk82 wrote:

roger hammonds coming across as a right bitter arsehole

If what he says about Sky giving the welly through the feed zone then he has a point , i agree though that at times he is coming across and bitter and jealous.

RichN95.

Bernie S wrote:

Didn tone team manager say that all the machinations of getting riders from other teams out of their contracts etc was going to backfire on Sky once the season had started

The thing is, while some DS's might not like this, I don't imagine the riders give a damn who Wiggins or Swift ride for, or how they ended up there. It's got no effect on them. A lot would probably like to be bought out of their contracts themselves.

Jez mon

gsk82 wrote:

roger hammonds coming across as a right bitter arsehole

Please explain why?

He's just explaining why the peleton rode hard at that point, I should doubt he's the one that gave the orders.

Sky should have played by the rules, or at least not gone all mardy when other people don't follow them.

mroli

Hmm - is this not people making a big deal out of it? From what I can see on the team sky website - people are just saying "well, it is an unwritten rule, but oh well - that's racing, we'll go for a stage win tomorrow". Hammond is claiming to be misquoted (although cycling news say not). Basically - in a race that doesn't matter that much, Sky got grumpy about not getting support chasing a break, tried to control a race, EBH went to the toilet, missed a break, Sky had a good effort in chasing it down and received support from teams that missed the break too, failed and lost overall lead. EBH has learnt a lesson - piss early or whilst riding, Sky have learnt that expectations of them are high in the peloton with regards to the work they are expected to do and that they are there to be attacked. Job done for all - and it makes for interesting riding (and rivalries) throughout the season.

bobtbuilder

Jez mon wrote:

gsk82 wrote:

roger hammonds coming across as a right bitter arsehole

Please explain why?

He's just explaining why the peloton rode hard at that point, I should doubt he's the one that gave the orders.

Sky should have played by the rules, or at least not gone all mardy when other people don't follow them.

+1. Sky got what they had coming.

pedro118118

Why is that whenever someone speaks out about Sky, they are labelled "bitter", "jellous" or an "@rseh0le".

I don't think Hammond is any of these things - he, no doubt, earns a handsome living, riding for a very well-equipped, well-funded and successful team, with a rider roster to compete with almost any other ProTour team - green jerseys, classics, GT stages, TdF winner/multiple-podium finisher etc.

The assumption seems to be that every rider in the world is full of envy and aspires to rider for Sky, which I'm sure isn't the case.

I, for one, appreciated him elaborating on the reasons why the race panned out the way it did. Had Sky not complained about EBH being 'attacked' during a rest break, then I doubt Roger (or anyone else) would've said anything about it.

I do agree, though, that it is all a bit petty!

disgruntledgoat

Things like this are invariably cock-up rather than consiracy. In this case EBH has demonstrated some naivety by stopping for a slash in the last 50km of a race. Why should the race stop because he wants it to?

I remember Jalabert getting caught out similarly whilst in Yellow at the Tour. Stopped for pee expecting (as is normal) the peloton to respec the Jerseys wishes, however, the fight for the break of the day was just geting going up front, lack of communication.. Jalabert loses yellow.

As JaJa remarked at teh time "Next time I'll piss in the hotel"

calvjones

Moray Gub wrote:

Team Banana Spokesman wrote:

spoiler in the title FFS! some of us have only seen st.2

To be fair its two days later and if you havent caught up yet then thats too bad really. Dont know how many times this has to be said.............visit a pro race forum and you will find out the result end of story.

I think this is a special case, as isn't the TV coverage a day late?

Kléber

Ace journalist Lionel Birnie has written a succint piece on the unwritten rules:

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/lat ... loton.html

mididoctors

Kléber wrote:

Ace journalist Lionel Birnie has written a succint piece on the unwritten rules:

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/lat ... loton.html

on reflection I think i would need to see the stage

this attacking in the feed zone was not on either....

lucybears

RichN95 wrote:

The thing is, while some DS's might not like this, I don't imagine the riders give a damn who Wiggins or Swift ride for, or how they ended up there. It's got no effect on them. A lot would probably like to be bought out of their contracts themselves.

But it does have an effect on riders. If you are a Garmin, BMC, Cervelo, Saur-Sojasun, Katusha or Vaconsoleil rider you may be hoping to ride the Tour, but in order to do so your team will need to be invited. If, by recruiting Wiggins, Sky are invited but your team isn't, you are going to be a bit p1ssed off...

dulldave

I read Hammond's comments in that article and they seemed fair enough.

He didn't sound bitter. Just pointing out the way things happened. Sky can't pick and choose which of the understood rules they want to observe when they are breaking other ones.

Sounds like it's just another wee lesson that EBH can learn. Was a bit late in the day to be expecting people to wait on you.

BdeB

It is interesting that Cervelo seem to be prominant in the anti sky riding. It strikes me that if they are both at the TDF then Sky could do a great deal of damage to Cervelo's chances of regaining the green jersey. Neither team can rival Cav for stage wins but sky could make it difficult for Hushov to pick up the points he did last year either by grabbing seconds or having the type of riders who could chase down any attempted break by Thor. Makes for interesting sub plots.