BikePure

PinkBianchi

For those of you out there who are against doping, become fan of BikePure on Facebook and follow them on twitter! And check their website for info

www.bikepure.org

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/bikepure?ref=ts

http://twitter.com/BikePure

http://twitter.com/BikePureNorway

Rodrego Hernandez

Aren't they just a carbon copy of the 'I support Drug Free Sport' that Cycling Weekly came up with a few years ago? The only exception being that they make money out of it and don't really care who wears their gay blue wrist bands.

Looks like a money making venture to me that does nothing to fight the war on drugs.

Please correct me if I am wrong though.

PinkBianchi

Always have to be someone that decides everything is negative doesn't it?

No, it's not a money making venture, and yes they do something to fight the war on drugs. Did you read any of the info on the website?

And please enlighten me on what a 'gay blue wristband' is? I didn't know wristbands had a sexuality.

Anonymous

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

Aren't they just a carbon copy of the 'I support Drug Free Sport' that Cycling Weekly came up with a few years ago? The only exception being that they make money out of it and don't really care who wears their gay blue wrist bands.

Looks like a money making venture to me that does nothing to fight the war on drugs.

Please correct me if I am wrong though.

Nice, bet you are a really great guy in real life. less doping and more gay bashing, well done. :roll:

AndyRubio

PinkBianchi wrote:

Always have to be someone that decides everything is negative doesn't it?

I followed Bike Pure on twitter. I asked a question along the lines of "Who are you?" and was blocked without any communication from him (I believe it's some Irish guy).

iainf72

Wasn't it last year that one of the riders who'd signed up tested positive and there was a quick bit of revisionism of the pages to pretend like the rider never existed?

Bobby and Pierre commented on it at the time....

timoid.

emadden who posts on this site helps run it I think.

I don't quite get why signing up to a Twitter or Facebook page will achieve anything.

Bronzie

Timoid. wrote:

I don't quite get why signing up to a Twitter or Facebook page will achieve anything.

+1

Kléber

It's a bit like an accountant needing a tie saying "I don't prepare fraudulent books" or a postman wearing a t-shirt saying "I don't pilfer your parcels", you don't need to wear a wristband to ride clean. Anyone signing up for a racing licence agrees to follow the rules.

...but that's the point, many don't. We've had an omerta and few have been willing to speak out, if bikepure encourages riders to publically sign up to keeping things healthy then all the better.

We can snipe about it but perhaps save your firepower for the crooks out there.

intothe12

Kléber wrote:

It's a bit like an accountant needing a tie saying "I don't prepare fraudulent books" or a postman wearing a t-shirt saying "I don't pilfer your parcels", you don't need to wear a wristband to ride clean. Anyone signing up for a racing licence agrees to follow the rules.

...but that's the point, many don't. We've had an omerta and few have been willing to speak out, if bikepure encourages riders to publically sign up to keeping things healthy then all the better.

We can snipe about it but perhaps save your firepower for the crooks out there.

I agree. I think the whole concept of bikepure is more about breaking the omerta which will hopefully lead to a cleaner sport.

AndyRubio

intothe12 wrote:

I agree. I think the whole concept of bikepure is more about breaking the omerta which will hopefully lead to a cleaner sport.

heh heh it's great being young

The owner's Lance-like barring me just made me think plus ca change.

TheYorkshireMan

intothe12 wrote:

I think the whole concept of bikepure is more about breaking the omerta which will hopefully lead to a cleaner sport.

Has anyone broken the omerta via the Bikepure site?

Murr X

AndyRubio wrote:

I followed Bike Pure on twitter. I asked a question along the lines of "Who are you?" and was blocked without any communication from him (I believe it's some Irish guy).

Some Irish guy? Pat McQuaid perhaps?

Not trying to stir things up but I can't imagine Bikepure really achieving a great deal to help the sport. I see that there are advertisements on the website and although it states it is a non profit orginisation I have my doubts...

Now the case of the apparent Bikepure rider who signed up before testing positive is not a great surprise, however if Bikepure now pretends that the rider in question never existed or had never signed up to them then this should be ringing alarm bells. This kind of behavoiur reeks of dishonesty and does little for their image.*



*If there is any information on the Bikepure affiliated rider failing a doping test then could somebody please point us in that direction.

iainf72

The rider was a Jelly Belly rider - Michael Lange.

Jelly Belly were a Bike Pure team before the positive was announced. But I can't find any mention of it on the Bike Pure site or via teh google.

Bronzie

They could do with a proof-reader for their webbie:

BikePure wrote:

Bike Pure began as a simple anti doping brand, where athletes could show they ride with drugs and respect their fellow competitors.

http://bikepure.org/what-is-bike-pure/c ... proposals/

FransJacques

Gay has a history of meaning "gaylord" or "looks like your mom bought it for you" a long long time before it was co-opted by an identifyable group. Did you wake up yesterday?

Signing up for this will solve the square root of jack - what budget do they have? Who are they working with? Why is the most important thing under the Resources heading the list of stockists and not "Petitions to sign" or "how to contact your local anti-doping lobby group" or "how to contact your local MP to petition for more funds for anti doping" or "email Seb Coe to ask him to make anti-doping high on the 2012 agenda/budget" or "let's organize a sit-in in Dr. Ferrari's office". There, that was a 10 second brainstorm while I'm on a conference call. This site has none of that.

Getting pro cyclists to stop doping is as hard as asking Bertarelli and Ellison to stop spending so much on their multihulls. I wish them all the best.

I don't dope but no one cares. Certainly not my Hillingdon competitors or results :-(

Percy Vera

Murr X wrote:

....... I see that there are advertisements on the website and although it states it is a non profit orginisation I have my doubts....

Non profit organisations can still pay their Director hundreds of thousands per year (if they make that). Non profit simple means the 'company' is non profit - not the staff.

Monkeypump

FransJacques wrote:

Gay has a history of meaning "gaylord" or "looks like your mom bought it for you" a long long time before it was co-opted by an identifyable group. Did you wake up yesterday?

Whether or not we woke up yesterday, we are living today.

Anyone who makes comments like that should try to have a little more awareness, common sense and respect.

FransJacques

So history doesn't matter then? Is there a statue of limitations after which we ignore previous events? Why don't you float that with some holocaust survivors and tell me how far you get?

Homer J

What does a gay blue wrist band look like. is it more sky blue or maybe ocean blue? Will it go with my navy blue helmet?

ratherbeintobago

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

The only exception being that they make money out of it and don't really care who wears their gay blue wrist bands.

Let's be fair here - wristbands are a bit lame, with one exception:



Andy

DOI - >10y service in HM reserve forces.

iainf72

The irony of an anti-doping campaign using wrist bands never fails to amuse me.

BikingBernie

ratherbeintobago wrote:

Let's be fair here - wristbands are a bit lame, with one exception:

https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/p ... _92942.jpg

What, you mean 'heroes' like those British troops who murdered that Iraqi civilian by using him as a target in a kickboxing competition?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/ma ... tary.iraq1

moray_gub

ratherbeintobago wrote:

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

The only exception being that they make money out of it and don't really care who wears their gay blue wrist bands.

Let's be fair here - wristbands are a bit lame, with one exception:

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Servicemen are doing a job they signed up for and are paid to do they know the risks when they join . They are no more heroic than most of the general population its just that they enlisted for service life and all that that entails.

mylesrants

Hello to all:

I am one of 'those' guys volunteering with BikePure. A fellow member brought the thread to my attention, I am not a regular contributor to the forum, so if anyone has further questions (which i have not addressed here) or advice on the direction of the campaign, Please email me Myles@bikepuredotorg and i would be happy to answer all.

Rodrego Hernandez: the campaign was started by a few cyclists who were looking to give back to the sport that has given them so much. i have race for over 25 years and earned a living from cycling for 10 of those- so like all bikers am protective of their sport and hate to see it damaged.

BikePure is two fold- 1,A simple brand (the wristband etc) telling the world a statement 'I ride clean', or i support/trust those who do.
2, a medium to let the grassroots cyclists be heard. Ignite change.

Money making!? my wife calls it BikePoor! no money changes hands between riders or teams. The pro rider/ team packs we send ( and a nominated team where they started racing) is funded by donations.

iainf72
no one has ever tested positive while signed to bikePure. thats not to say it is not a worry! We are there to facilitate a rider who is fed up with being lumped with the dopers.
We do not choose or edit those who make the decision to sign up, we just hope that their integrity is solid.
As with anyone putting their name to Bike Pure’s pledge to ride with honor – we insist it is an individual choice the rider makes and not an order handed down by the Team Director. From the site:

The Pledge not to dope, is not between the rider and Bike Pure, but the rider and his friends, family and team mates. It is the choice to ride clean and with honor. Bike Pure is a medium to let the world know that an athlete has taken this decision to respect his sport and the elements within.


Hello Timoid.: we just use facebook/twitter as it gives the club rider/fan the same power of voice and cadel.

Kléber my thoughts exactly

TheYorkshireMan: we wont act on rumour even it is true, so no. the whole premise of bikepure is that our sport has had enough bad publicity- promote the good- bad and forget the bad.

Murr X Refer to above and the Honour code for a past doper:
http://bikepure.org/resources


iainf72 Jellybelly were a bikepure team, signed in nov 2008 but never returned the honor code forms and wouldnt reply to any form of contact when the new management took over at the start of 2009. so we removed them in april 2009 from the old site.

Bronzie- we really could do with a proof reader! you offering, most misspelling is my fault (once spelt shimano with a 6 after the g)

FransJacques We , and i speak for all the members in 83 countries, would rather try- than moan every time a rider returns a positive sample. Our campaign is evolving, the UCI are listening, just trying hardto make an honest, positive change.


Percy Vera Chainreaction cycles pay nothing to us for the ad, but do send out newsbites about our progress to their customers. Aspirevelotech pay 600$ every 6 months. FPM accountants in Newry regulate all income /expenditure.


hope life good with all and would appreciate all feedback.

m.

FransJacques

Yes, calling anyone a hero when all they're doing is their job is lame. If they do something heroic, get a medal for it, get on the Beeb like that Beharry chap then that's the normal definition of heros. The WWII definition. Long before we stopped teaching out kids that to fail is just part of life. And gave them "showing up awards". Feck me we've done a lot worse for the next generation than any terrorist bomb could. Ever.

I'm a banker and I get called a pig with my nose in the trough for doing my job. Where's my fricken wrist band? Oh that? That's my Jaeger-LeCoultre :-))

iainf72

mylesrants wrote:

iainf72 Jellybelly were a bikepure team, signed in nov 2008 but never returned the honor code forms and wouldnt reply to any form of contact when the new management took over at the start of 2009. so we removed them in april 2009 from the old site.

Cheers for the explanation. From my seat it looked like Lange tests positive and suddenly Jelly Belly disappear from the site.

Will you only include teams when they've done the paperwork now?

BikingBernie

mylesrants wrote:

TheYorkshireMan: we wont act on rumour even it is true, so no.

I feel that you may be missing the point here, but do we take it that you don't encourage dopers to break the omerta?

mylesrants wrote:

the whole premise of bikepure is that our sport has had enough bad publicity- promote the good- bad and forget the bad.

You are Pat McQuaid and I claim my five Pounds...

Spiny_Norman

mylesrants wrote:

most misspelling is my fault (once spelt shimano with a 6 after the g)

There's a g in shimano???? :P

Percy Vera

mylesrants wrote:

Percy Vera Chainreaction cycles pay nothing to us for the ad, but do send out newsbites about our progress to their customers. Aspirevelotech pay 600$ every 6 months. FPM accountants in Newry regulate all income /expenditure.


hope life good with all and would appreciate all feedback.

m.
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Thanks for your detailed post.
Murr X was concerned about adverts on the site not me.

calvjones

@myesrants

Kudos for posting. Whilst not all of us may be convinced by your methods, I guess most of us agree with your objectives.

And at least your doing a little bit more than b1tching on a forum...