armstrong v Hinault
seanoconn
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Having watched an episode of Virgin 1's deadliest warrior! Yeah, its as it sounds. A complex programme where they pit for example, a samurai against a spartan warrior and work out who would win in a fight. The level of violence the presenters of the show revel in is surprisingly entertaining. Anyway, this got me thinking about the age old question of who would win a fight out of the five times plus winners. You don't win 5 or more tour de france's without being hard but who's the hardest? On the basis that some are too nice to fight i've narrowed it down to Armstrong and Hinualt. The computer simulation so far says the badger is edging it! :twisted:
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During the period of his record 7 TdF wins, LA would have a very short racing season, whereas BH raced from one end of the pro season to the other and did everything from classics to multiple grand tours. Taking these two different approaches, I'd say LA would win at the short, Tour specific campaign, whereas BH would last the whole season better.
Given that Sean Kelly still gets tempted to the Newport Nocturnes, I'd have love to see what a fit old badger could do on modern equipment with up to date training methods.To err is human, but to make a real balls up takes a super computer.0 -
Hinault would probably punch him in the face on stage 1, just to show him who's boss."A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
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You've narrowed the five times winners down to Hinault and Armstrong? I can think of a Belgian geezer who would have buried both of them.0
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Merckx is a strong guy, but maybe too nice for an anything goes, down and dirty fight.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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Don't you believe it.seanoconn wrote:Merckx is a strong guy, but maybe too nice for an anything goes, down and dirty fight.
You don't get to pulverise everybody like Merckx did by being a shrinking violet.0 -
I think Indurain'd have it: simply by stoically soaking up anybody else's attacks. He needn't throw a punch (probably has about as much clue how to do that as I do), but the big Basque farmer would still be standing, battered, looking blissfully into the distance as his opponent collapsed from exhaustion.0
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Queensberry rules or a bit of friendly man wrestling, i'd go for merckx or indurain. Fight to the death, armstrong or hinault.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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Hinault. Armstrong wouldn't be dirty enough and the badger has a lower centre of gravity enabling him to duck/deflect anything Lance could throw at him.let all your saddles be comfy and all your rides less bumpy....0
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Hinault still has a look of a nasty bastard about him.
Even though he is not really one of the options, I'd go for the Cannibal every time, you don't get that kind of nickname for nowt.0 -
Hinault wasn't called the Badger for nothing - it comes from the fact that if cornered the said animal would fight with untempered ferocity. Also, the Honey Badger (Ratel), despite its cute name is known pound-for-pound as one of the fiercest creatures around. So there.0
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disquieting_museeuws wrote:Hinault wasn't called the Badger for nothing - it comes from the fact that if cornered the said animal would fight with untempered ferocity. Also, the Honey Badger (Ratel), despite its cute name is known pound-for-pound as one of the fiercest creatures around. So there.
Hinault for me too. Merckx is too much of a moaner.0 -
I reckon Hinault would tip it. Didn't he steam into protestors at the Tour once ?0
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Got to be HInault Armstrong doesn't seem like a fighter to me - he'd probably just get all his mates to beat you up first and then deliver the last punch.
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
Yeah he cycled straight into a load of protesters, had a fight, broke a couple of ribs and carried on. Not to be messed with.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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ShockedSoShocked wrote:Hinault would probably punch him in the face on stage 1, just to show him who's boss.
That'd be worth switching channels to watch!0 -
Hinault all the way, he has proper form. He has actually got into proper fights with fists, not just some stiff words like Armstong.
I can just see LA giving The Badger "the look" just as Hinault launches him off the podium and tears into him.
I love The Badger, a proper old school hard man.Complicating matters since 19650 -
The Cannibal...
The Badger...
Mellow Johnny....
Who's your money on??
Hinault for me...proper 'ard!
Apparently Colin Edwards ( motogp ) has a Honey Badger as a pet. It's called Little Colin...which is nice.
Your Honey Badgers takedown tactic is to sneek underneath & clamp it's fangs into the soft delicate plum area! Now if it tried that with Lancelot, the Badger would only have a 50% chance of a victory. LA could then launch a counter attack!0 -
I see The [fake] Badger featured in Harry Hill's 'fight' this week - looked like it didn't do too well, but it was a fake after all.
I wouldn't fancy a Ratel as a pet, there are only about 30 in world zoos as far as I know.0 -
What? how can anyone that wins the tour 7 times and win a fight against cancer not be a fighter? They would tear each other apart!Got to be HInault Armstrong doesn't seem like a fighter to me0 -
Hinault.
He wouldn't bother with that Twitter bollo*ks, he'd just tw*t him.0 -
Or tw*tter him.
Pat..."Campagnolo has soul, Shimano has ruthless efficiency and SRAM has yet to acquire mystique. Differentiating between them is a matter of taste"0 -
If it were possible for them to meet at their peak
Armstrong would Talk the Talk,but
Hinault would Walk the Walk (flatten him)so many cols,so little time!0 -
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