Rubbish...

Le Commentateur
Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
edited February 2010 in Pro race
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/pho ... arto-corse

What are they on about, the frame is too big and he wasn't using carbon levers until 1999. Look at the photos & videos of the 1998 tour... Also, one of his customizing quirks was to have a downtube lever for the chainrings.

Maybe those pedals went round France in summer '98 but little else.
Un uomo solo al commando

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  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    Send some links. On second view the HT looks right but the ST does look a tad long. The stem and bars and the wheels look spot on tho.

    Did he ride that saddle that year or was it was next year? Not sure.
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  • bobbymeister
    bobbymeister Posts: 186
    That 'double winning bike' has been doing the rounds for years.
    Cycle Europe, who were/are the Bianchi importer in the UK, used to lend it to dealers for display purposes.
    If memory serves, and we are going back a few years, the one that I saw - and, ahem, rode round the car park ;-) - had the authentic alu ergos and the downtube shifter.
    Not sure what's gone on there, but the carbon ergos certainly didn't come along until '99 and those bars look like anatomics rather than classic bend.
    I'm not even 100 per cent that's a '98 frame.
    Just a thought, but perhaps there is more than one 'double winning bike'?
    Pantani probably had three or four bikes through the year or, if I was being cynical, I'd say they knocked up a replica for every importer across the globe.
    Either way, that's not the bike that left Der Kaiser trailing in its wake.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,869
    IIRC Pantani's bike HT is in fact slightly over-length so he could ride the drops rather than hoods... his request
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • 2oldnslow
    2oldnslow Posts: 313
    I think bobby is absolutely right. I remember years ago seeing Pantani's "mountain stage" bike in the window of Apple Bikes in St Annes Lancashire and it as he says had a downtube shifter for the front change. The bike shown definately isn't it.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
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    Spot the difference! I can see different:
    - Ergolevers/downtube shifter
    - Pedals
    - Handlebars
    - Computer
    - Seatpost collar

    Those fine hacks at cyclingnews.com have been hoodwinked
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    my personal magic yard stick is forks. forks tend to differ wildly in decals and paint so can show differences.

    In this case the forks on the 2 bikes are different - of note are the height of the fade between the celeste and yellow paint, the amount the decals dip into the lower colour, and the yellow vs blue time stickers.

    of course, in those days, all carbon forks were 1" and noodly so perhaps were changed often. dunno...

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/pho ... rse/103985

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/pho ... rse/103983
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  • brakelever
    brakelever Posts: 158
    so over to the sherlock holmes of the classic racing bike dept ! where is it ?
  • paulcuthbert
    paulcuthbert Posts: 1,016
    Also looks like a different stem...
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  • eh
    eh Posts: 4,854
    If you look on Graham Watson, the CN bike looks more like the one he rode for the 99 M-SR. To be honest I bet his bikes were in a constant state of change as Campag and the like gave him the latest new stuff.
  • northernneil
    northernneil Posts: 1,549
    he'd have several bikes with constantly changing levers, drops, forks, brakes the whole works - there are probably several 'double winning' bikes doing the rounds and we should appreciate every single one
  • teagar
    teagar Posts: 2,100
    I LOVE that kit...

    The bike looks great if nothing else.
    Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    This is a nice one as well: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/tech/200 ... hi_Ullrich

    In fact I've never known Bianchi NOT to do a nice pro bike. Some of the Barloworld frames were a little on the busy side graphics-wise, but most are nice:

    http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/tech/200 ... chi_diluca
    http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/tech/200 ... hi_paolini

    And on TT bikes, we've come a long way. Does this look fast?: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2 ... CHlanceTT1

    Or does this?: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/200 ... plete_bike
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Amazing how Jan nearly took the Tour on an Ally bike only 6 years ago and now they're uncooler than Cliff.
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  • Birillo
    Birillo Posts: 417
    Amazing how Jan nearly took the Tour on an Ally bike only 6 years ago and now they're uncooler than Cliff.

    . . . and how Gilbert won Paris Tours and the Giro di Lombardia etc on the same stuff in 2009. Didn't anyone tell him that aluminium is "uncooler"?

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