Verenti bikes from Wiggle

DomPro
DomPro Posts: 321
edited February 2010 in Road buying advice
Verenti bikes are now available from Wiggle. What does everyone think of these? Seem to be value for money.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/c/cycle/7/Road_Bikes_-_Race/
Shazam !!

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  • mattbass789
    mattbass789 Posts: 355
    I shall gander. and get back.
    “If you worried about falling off the bike, you’d never get on.”

    @mattbeedham
  • mattbass789
    mattbass789 Posts: 355
    im back,

    Id probably go with the rhigos .02 but similar spec to boardman carbon, but 800quid more.
    obviously the frame will be better, i was hoping that these would throw something up in the air for me, for a next bike, but still boardman pro carbon, is the only one that ticks all my boxes for function.

    still they look sweet, and the guy from condor behind the design, wont be bad at all.
    “If you worried about falling off the bike, you’d never get on.”

    @mattbeedham
  • tenor
    tenor Posts: 278
    kilmeston looks good value as a winter/general purpose bike.
  • twotyred
    twotyred Posts: 822
    TBH from the limited photos they look old fashioned. Surely using lugs is a backwards step from monocoque?
  • sward29
    sward29 Posts: 205
    twotyred wrote:
    TBH from the limited photos they look old fashioned. Surely using lugs is a backwards step from monocoque?

    Try telling that to Colnago, Look, and Parlee.
  • Squillinossett
    Squillinossett Posts: 1,678
    twotyred wrote:
    TBH from the limited photos they look old fashioned. Surely using lugs is a backwards step from monocoque?

    Colnago EPS uses lugs...and Parlee
  • Crankmeister
    Crankmeister Posts: 274
    Viners Colnago Parlee Look are some of the companys that use lugs still.
    It is older technology but i guess it still works well as all mentioned companys make outstanding frames.
    Personally though if i was to be shelling out a big wedge of dosh on a frame i would want something that uses cutting edge technology rather than 1990s tech.
    I really wish i hadnt seen the new dogma 60.1 i want i want i want but its devilishly expensive isnt it and you still have to pedal the thing after all :lol:
  • kingrollo
    kingrollo Posts: 3,198
    twotyred wrote:
    TBH from the limited photos they look old fashioned. Surely using lugs is a backwards step from monocoque?

    +1 exactly my thoughts

    Didn't wiggle have a previous own brand of Kyrion or something. Ribble and Planet X would still appear to be better bikes at this level....IMO
  • chrisw12
    chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    Where did they get the name 'Rhigos' from?

    Please tell me it's not named after the famous :roll: mountain pass above the small village in Wales?
  • magliaceleste
    magliaceleste Posts: 748
    twotyred wrote:
    TBH from the limited photos they look old fashioned. Surely using lugs is a backwards step from monocoque?

    No.
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    Check out the geometry, these seem to be "sportive" bikes with a big S. 195mm headtube on a frame with a 55cm top tube!

    Are there any pictures of entire bikes anywhere, or just bits?

    For some reason I keep reading "Rhigos" as "Ringos"...
  • DomPro
    DomPro Posts: 321
    Full bike pictures are 'coming soon'. I actually think the lugs look good with bonded carbon tubes.
    Shazam !!
  • ketsbaia
    ketsbaia Posts: 1,718
    chrisw12 wrote:
    Where did they get the name 'Rhigos' from?

    Please tell me it's not named after the famous :roll: mountain pass above the small village in Wales?

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  • sampras38
    sampras38 Posts: 1,917
    chrisw12 wrote:
    Where did they get the name 'Rhigos' from?

    Please tell me it's not named after the famous :roll: mountain pass above the small village in Wales?

    It's named after one of the Dragon climbs isn't it?
  • pontarlier_pete
    pontarlier_pete Posts: 195
    neeb wrote:
    Check out the geometry, these seem to be "sportive" bikes with a big S. 195mm headtube on a frame with a 55cm top tube!

    Are there any pictures of entire bikes anywhere, or just bits?

    For some reason I keep reading "Rhigos" as "Ringos"...

    I thought the ones released so far are just sportive bikes and the racing geometry bikes will be released later in the year. Could be wrong though.

    Those new Centec (or whatever they're called) of London bikes also look interesting. As does the 2010 Pearson Pro Carbon. And the Rapha Condor race. Some good, if not top level, bikes are coming out of the UK at the moment.
  • 2alexcoo
    2alexcoo Posts: 251
    neeb wrote:
    Check out the geometry, these seem to be "sportive" bikes with a big S. 195mm headtube on a frame with a 55cm top tube!

    Are there any pictures of entire bikes anywhere, or just bits?

    For some reason I keep reading "Rhigos" as "Ringos"...

    The geometry table gives the actual top tube, but not the effective top tube.

    On a bike with a sloping top tube, which I assume these are, this information is useless!
    Alex
  • flanners1
    flanners1 Posts: 916
    chrisw12 wrote:
    Where did they get the name 'Rhigos' from?

    Please tell me it's not named after the famous :roll: mountain pass above the small village in Wales?

    No Rhigos goes like a Rhigos goes (showing my age, ringo's were my fav crisps and I liked the adverts)
    Colnago C60 SRAM eTap, Colnago C40, Milani 107E, BMC Pro Machine, Trek Madone, Viner Gladius,
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  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    The geometry table gives the actual top tube, but not the effective top tube.

    On a bike with a sloping top tube, which I assume these are, this information is useless!
    You're right in principle, but unless the top tube has a very extreme slope there's only going to be 1 or 2 cm difference at the most. Even if the effective TT is 57 rather than 55, 195mm is still a very tall headtube. It's clear from the range of sizes and other dimensions that these bikes have tall head tubes.

    But I suspect Pontarlier Pete is right, if you read the small print for the Rhigos 1 these seem to be being marketed as sportive bikes ("the ultimate sportive performance road bike"), and they will probably have more race orientated models along in due course. I wonder if they will also have the lugged construction?

    Quite daring of wiggle to go down this route, they could have just got hold of a bunch of generic far eastern monocoque frames instead. Quite curious to find out (and see) more..
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,909
    The head tube dimensions look wrong.... 195mm for a 555-560?

    thats a shopping bike?
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    Well, the Specialized Roubaix is 190mm for 565, not so far off...

    it's certainly at the extreme end of "sportive"...
  • kingrollo
    kingrollo Posts: 3,198
    Wiggles own brand a few years back......

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Kiron ... 360043854/
  • pontarlier_pete
    pontarlier_pete Posts: 195
    Here you go, I knew I'd read it somewhere:

    "Sportives won't be the end of it - road racing, cyclo cross and TT bikes are all on the cards too, and Verenti are promising a range that's "designed bottom-up for performance" for whatever type of riding you do."

    http://road.cc/content/news/12986-sneak ... nti-rhigos
  • Tempestas
    Tempestas Posts: 486
    I have never understood the need for a high end specific sportive bike personally, I set all my road bikes up exactly the same in what I would call the optimum position. So why would you want a high front end? Maybe as a novice rider of someone who doesn't ride long miles a higher front end would be ok, but an experienced rider spending the kind of money these bikes are marketed at would surely want a sporty/race position?

    I would be interested to find out who here would actually buy a sportive specific bike, since I guess most people are on 'normal' road bikes and are quite comfortable?
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    Some people just aren't flexible enough to ride with a big drop between the saddle and bars, or aren't comfortable in that position. A 195mm headtube for a 56ish TT is a lot compared to most standard road bikes, but then most people use spacers under the stem. My effective top tube is about the same length and I have a headtube of 148. I have a drop of about 6 or 7cm from the saddle to the bars, but I still have a couple of centimeters of spacers (which is ideal, as it gives me leeway for adjustment). But if I wanted to have the bars at the same height as the saddle, I would ideally want another 6cm of headtube, which would be 208mm!!

    You do get experienced riders (especially older ones) who ride a lot of miles and still like to have the bar height close to the saddle height.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,909
    edited February 2010
    neeb wrote:
    Some people just aren't flexible enough to ride with a big drop between the saddle and bars, or aren't comfortable in that position. A 195mm headtube for a 56ish TT is a lot compared to most standard road bikes, but then most people use spacers under the stem. My effective top tube is about the same length and I have a headtube of 148. I have a drop of about 6 or 7cm from the saddle to the bars, but I still have a couple of centimeters of spacers (which is ideal, as it gives me leeway for adjustment). But if I wanted to have the bars at the same height as the saddle, I would ideally want another 6cm of headtube, which would be 208mm!!

    You do get experienced riders (especially older ones) who ride a lot of miles and still like to have the bar height close to the saddle height.

    I put myself in the LSD old man cat these days

    195 doesn't give you a lot of choice..

    i ride a 555 un-aggressive frame

    i have a relaxed old man 165 plus 2 X 5mm spacers plus headset stack of perhaps 15mm ..... one 5mm spacer i flip above and below the stem depending on terrain... if i'm riding the hills/alps both are under the rest of the time only one is

    so that puts me at a sedate 190mm effective

    on this jobby i'm at 195 to start with
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  • Tempestas
    Tempestas Posts: 486
    That's kind of my point I guess, this kind of bike restricts your position. I can increase the height of my bars if needed by flipping the stem, adding spacers or changing to a stem with a different angle. It just strikes me as strange to restrict your height to one position, I guess it's fine if that's what you want/need though.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,909
    are "sportive" bikes the bulk of the market... ?
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • neeb
    neeb Posts: 4,473
    are "sportive" bikes the bulk of the market... ?
    No. Not for medium to high end road bikes at least. They are a significant but minority section of the market. A lot of entry level bikes have slightly more upright geometry however.

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