Gordon Ramsay - A Complete Tool!

nicensleazy

I have been watching a few of these programmes on Gordon Ramsay in India. I have got to say, the guy just comes across as a total Cock! I think old Ramsay has past his shelf life and on the way down.

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rake

probably the recession will hit his restaurants. i admire his drive but hes goes overboard on the insults sometimes and reacts in a manner he wouldn't accept back. in this respect hes a tool.

BigJimmyB

I like the guy and find him entertaining, but I'd like to see him doing something he's not great at with an expert who talks and behaves like he does. See him on the receiving end and see how he likes it....

iainf72

I've had a chat with someone who worked for Ramsay, as well as for a number of other chefs and Gordon is pretty mild compared to some of the others. I think Ramsay quit working for M P White because of "bullying and violence" and learnt it from there - Not seen him be violent though

andyrm

I wouldn't be at all surprised if at least a part of it was for the camera.....it is pretty much his USP after all. I remember watching a programme about The Apprentice and Alan Sugar & his team saying how much they hated the "You're Fired" tagline and the over harsh approach they have to take, but that's 'reality' TV for you - a caricature of what really happens

zippypablo

andyrm wrote:

I wouldn't be at all surprised if at least a part of it was for the camera.....it is pretty much his USP after all. I remember watching a programme about The Apprentice and Alan Sugar & his team saying how much they hated the "You're Fired" tagline and the over harsh approach they have to take, but that's 'reality' TV for you - a caricature of what really happens

Which is probably the reason why Gordon Ramsay has turned into a caricature of himself.

MrHulot

I've watched Ramsay's progs from India and they made me cringe. While the sideways comments are for the camera they are in ear shot of his hosts or people he encounters. You can see the local people find them offensive, case in point was the wedding where he was making smart comments about guests criticising his kebabs/koftas or whatever they were. Surely he can't be so arrogant that he knows how to cook local food better than the locals - correction, he is that arrogant. An uninspiring 3 episodes. Leave this stuff to those that can like Rick Stein.

Lagavulin

I quite like him in the F Word but I thought this series was very poor. I particularly disliked the way he talked to the local populace. The guys working on typewriters in Mumbai etc.

As previously mentioned, Rick Stein's recent series in Asia was first class and this was abysmal in comparison.

stonehouse

IMHO he displayed a very ignorant attitude especially with the Guru. Fair enough don't agree with their beliefs but show some respect when people are clearly meditating. All his swearing became wearing I thought. His world is going to crash around him this year as a result of his ignorance....

cougie

I've not seen the Indian shows, but a mate is in the business and hes always said that Ramsay is a great guy to work for - which doesnt come across in the tv shows.

Monkeypump

I do like Ramsay, but in the India series he seems to be paying lip service to the idea of 'learning from the experts'.

The backhanded insults trample all over any notion of respecting local culture.

Disappointing.

teagar

Monkeypump wrote:

I do like Ramsay, but in the India series he seems to be paying lip service to the idea of 'learning from the experts'.

The backhanded insults trample all over any notion of respecting local culture.

Disappointing.

I get increasinly irritated watching white UK men on travel cookery shows to 'exotic' places, getting told by the local, appropriating it, and then telling us how we can incorporate it into our own European habbits.

He's less an expert than they are so why should I listen to him?

Seems all a bit colonial to me, but I'm quite sensitive to all that.

Why not have a diferent chef from a different region every week, giving us his or her favourite dishes? Cut out the irritating middleman.

rake

should he stick to fish and chips then because hes white? it just shows he has a wide repertoire of menus which i would expect a shef to have. there has been indian chefs on his show cooking currys. i sometimes turn off simply because the man is being an unreasonable tool.

Bugly

Not in the restuarant industry and never would = it seems to be a very stressful profession (at least til you become a celebrity chef ) with long hours, horrid working conditons and relativily low pay.

What I find amusing on the 'reality' cooking shows is how many wannabee chefs smoke. Their palates must be totally shite.

rake

Bugly wrote:

Not in the restuarant industry and never would = it seems to be a very stressful profession (at least til you become a celebrity chef ) with long hours, horrid working conditons and relativily low pay.

What I find amusing on the 'reality' cooking shows is how many wannabee chefs smoke. Their palates must be totally shite.

how can they taste anything?

lae

^ when I was a chef, I think I was the only one who didn't smoke! It really is as bad as you imagine it - on a busy day you turn up at 11am and hope that whoever shut down last night has done the proper cleaning and prep. About an hour later, the lunchtime wave comes and you literally can't take a single minute for yourself until about 5pm, then it's time to do as much prep as you can before the evening wave starts at 7pm, then you don't stop until midnight, then you clean up and go home and collapse. Over christmas it's just 8, 10, 12+ hours of nonstop cooking. So that's why they smoke - it's quicker than eating!

Before I worked in a kitchen I found it hard to imagine why someone would shout as much as Gordon Ramsay, but after my first shift it became perfectly clear. Food is a great passion of mine but I wouldn't want to work in a kitchen again, not unless I had no other paths available, I don't yet have the confidence in myself to be able to cook carefully and quickly at the same time. The difference between Ramsay and me is that, whilst I could (probably) cook anything on the menu at any one of his restaurants, it would take me hours while he can knock them out over and over and over.

You also get sick of the food very very quickly. I used to come home and just eat lettuce and fruit because I had been around steaks and roasts and ox tongues all day...

passout

'If' the Indians in question were offended then this might be a story. As it is, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. It's just British people on their sofas who seem to be bothered. I thought that he seemed to get on rather well with the Indians he encountered e.g. that chef who literally cooked on the street in a Mumbia slum who called him a 'brother for life'. Perhaps they liked someone who said what they thought & was genuine and not over worried about offending people - as so many tourists in India are.

stonehouse

I don't think they understood most of his cutting comments and swearing. At least the ones at the Raj looked down their noses at him.

HungryCol

Remember it's also TV and heavily edited to make TV for the masses. I've heard that GR can instill great motivation in his team and I don't mean by swearing at them.

Have to say I think he does know his limitations. On his Kitchen Nightmares USA he went to an Indian resturant in NY but called in an Indian cuisine expert to help with the cooking and menus. Maybe that's why he's in India now to expand his knowledge base. Even when he was rearing turkeys, pigs and making beer in his home he called in the exerts.

I do find him OTT on swearing in his shows but know there's no malice behind it.

chriskempton

"Have you got any cling film?"

<non english-speaking, bemused silence>

"HAVE YOU GOT ANY CLING FILM???"

<non english-speaking, bemused silence>

"FARKING HELL!!!!!!!!"

What a tool :roll:

nicensleazy

Yes of course.....if you don't understnad, then I'll just shout louder at you!!!!!

dilemna

Shouting and swearing at people from a totally different culture who earn a dollar a day and who couldn't give crap about who he is, is so big and clever. Gordon Ramsay = tool.

Jamie Oliver, Nigella, HFW, Floyd or even Rick Stein any one but the tool Ramsay. He's nearly as bad as AWT or James Martin .

ronthechef

Having worked in fine dining restaurants for the last 15 years, could you please let me know where you worked that let you start at 11am??

frinkmakesyouthink wrote:

^ when I was a chef, I think I was the only one who didn't smoke! It really is as bad as you imagine it - on a busy day you turn up at 11am and hope that whoever shut down last night has done the proper cleaning and prep. About an hour later, the lunchtime wave comes and you literally can't take a single minute for yourself until about 5pm, then it's time to do as much prep as you can before the evening wave starts at 7pm, then you don't stop until midnight, then you clean up and go home and collapse. Over christmas it's just 8, 10, 12+ hours of nonstop cooking. So that's why they smoke - it's quicker than eating!

Before I worked in a kitchen I found it hard to imagine why someone would shout as much as Gordon Ramsay, but after my first shift it became perfectly clear. Food is a great passion of mine but I wouldn't want to work in a kitchen again, not unless I had no other paths available, I don't yet have the confidence in myself to be able to cook carefully and quickly at the same time. The difference between Ramsay and me is that, whilst I could (probably) cook anything on the menu at any one of his restaurants, it would take me hours while he can knock them out over and over and over.

You also get sick of the food very very quickly. I used to come home and just eat lettuce and fruit because I had been around steaks and roasts and ox tongues all day...

beckcd

Sorry this fucker with the chin is indicative of the way the country is going, the bully makes a name for himself by slapping down those under him. I teach kids, they see twats like him swearing and getting lairy with anyone who doesn't toe his line and they think this is normal behaviour. I agree with post one a complete tool.

rake

beckcd wrote:

Sorry this ****** with the chin is indicative of the way the country is going, the bully makes a name for himself by slapping down those under him. I teach kids, they see twats like him swearing and getting lairy with anyone who doesn't toe his line and they think this is normal behaviour. I agree with post one a complete tool.

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