UKIP; dangerous and reactionary? Or the party of the future?

downfader
downfader Posts: 3,686
edited January 2010 in The bottom bracket
I see UKIP are making statements about Burkas now along the lines of "ban them!" Whilst I dont see anything wrong with it myself there surely has to be a decent reason other than "its unBritish" as they seem to be suggesting. Shouldnt we also have a right to wear what we want as individuals, providing we're clothed in publc, LOL? What next? Ban heavy metal tshirts, miniskirts, or trainers as they help muggers escape?

Well I'm white and working class and even I see this as a nonsense to gain votes

There was a guy who posted a youtube video the other week, he documents all kinds of what he calls recidivist behaviour. Its quite facinating watching, I have to admit: http://www.youtube.com/user/littlebigbrain What made me laugh was the fact a UKIP supporter went on his page to complain about his comments regarding Churchill being a liberal, iirc. A conversation ensued and it transpired that the supporter didnt realise UKIP want to abolish the human rights act (which acts as a cohesive glue to hole other legislation in place, I am told).

Thats a pretty fundemental ommission. It'd be like voting for Labour in the 70s and not knowing about the unions.

Everything I have ever read about UKIP has turned me off them. I read a fair bit their policies and manifestos last year and decided "I'll vote tory instead!!" (This is as a lifelong Labour supporter, from a family of working class and union members/shop stewards)

Anyway.. enough babbling - your views and a poll?

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  • teagar
    teagar Posts: 2,100
    The binary doesn't leave much room for manourvre.

    How about "UKIP - a one issue party, unlikely to survive the next 20 years in a capacity that is remotely significant" ?

    They're still reactionary. That's the point of their party.
    Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
  • nicensleazy
    nicensleazy Posts: 2,310
    I don't know a great deal about them .
  • downfader
    downfader Posts: 3,686
    nicensleazy wrote:
    I don't know a great deal about them .

    Thats actually what a few of my workmates said, shortly before telling me they'd already voted for them. :shock: :lol:
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    They are a party that seem to rely on xenophobia, they are backwards looking and want to make the UK insular.

    Whist they would be dangerous with real power, I can't see them getting a look in. their politics often sound OK, but very often have some real shortcomings. take their view on Europe, a strong independent sounds good, but it's just not a realistic proposition at the moment, instead, if we actually worked with the EU, we might be able to get a better deal for ourselves. Whilst I don't like Burkas (I feel that any culture where the women feel they have to cover up to avoid the leers of men is not one I want to be a part of) I equally would not like to live in a culture where what we wore was dictated to us, I only just got out of school FFS, I don't want to go back to wearing a uniform :lol:
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • deptfordmarmoset
    deptfordmarmoset Posts: 3,118
    Every now and then democracy catches a cold. UKIP are the bogies.
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  • downfader
    downfader Posts: 3,686
    deptfordmarmoset wrote:
    Every now and then democracy catches a cold. UKIP are the bogies.
    :lol:
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    beards and dark glasses will be next on the list....soon it will be a crime to leave the house unless you are clean shaven and do not have a fringe.....
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    These guys are after cheap votes, Daily Mailesque, lets ignore them.

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