Wheels (are these any good)

mentalalex

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=19915



looking to train and race on these.

any one used them ?

any other suggestions at that price range


Pics of the wheels

JohnnyAllez

How about these, good price too (note the 10% discount ending soon)

http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/mountain- ... -pair.html

mentalalex

there is about 200 grams in difference. and i need light wheels. but thanks

EKIMIKE

That's about as light a factory built wheel you're gonna get for the money. Don't see why they shouldn't be fine.

Monty Dog

I have had a pair for about 2 years - they are light and pretty aero but not very stiff laterally - I wouldn't recommend them for a heavy rider as you'll get brake rub. I did have a minor problem with the freehub but once rectified, there was no reoccurence. Alternatives are Eastons and ProLites - but more expensive.

rake

they have many similarities with ritchey wheels which were made under liscence from american classic. thats probably the same as the ritchey wcs v3 hub. take a look and youl see the similarities for yourself. i was looking at the 420's they have a very good write up. my only hesitation is a while ago ac had a very common failure of the rear freehub which got very wide criticism. i dont know exactly which wheels or what they did to sort it out, otherwise very good whells i think.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=37486

redddraggon

mentalalex wrote:

there is about 200 grams in difference. and i need light wheels. but thanks

Why do you need light wheels? Is the bike for riding or putting on a scale?

95% of the Time aero beats weight

ugo.santalucia

I am a bit skeptic to be honest...

Very light but profiled wheels... where's the weight saving comes from? Very light rim walls, which compromise durability (not to speak about potential failurre)? Or severely underweight spokes which will give you lots of headaches?

By previous experience, I am weary of sub 1.5 Kg wheels... especially in this case, where you've got high profile, so you should have a little bit more material in them...

rake

a good amount of weight is lost in the hubs, look how skinny they are. they are on the light side but they have a fair reputation in america. if you want solid aero you want a dt swiss 1.2 rim or rr585 as its now called. choose the drilling. welded rim joint. heavier but you wont break them. for £250 ish you could build em on competition spokes and ultegra hubs.30mm profile.

ugo.santalucia

rake wrote:

a good amount of weight is lost in the hubs, look how skinny they are. they are on the light side but they have a fair reputation in america. if you want solid aero you want a dt swiss 1.2 rim or rr585 as its now called. choose the drilling. welded rim joint. heavier but you wont break them. for £250 ish you could build em on competition spokes and ultegra hubs.30mm profile.

There's only some weight you cal loose in the hubs. I have the feeling rims are thin and spokes are weak.

The reason I'm skeptic is that I have a pair of DT swiss 1.1 with revolution spokes (the mon chasseral setup)... same weight as these but without profile. I've broken two spokes and the rim wear indicators are so shallow that you can't feel them by passing a finger on them. I wonder how long they'll last.

rake

there climbing wheels which is all about weight. theyre named after a mountain. you need the 1.2. 585 grams.

Monty Dog

FWIW the hubs are the latest AmClassic design that are different from the Ritchey ones that were recalled. I've had AmClassic hubs previously, and whilst the bearings aren't the most robust - they are quite small, they are very cheap and easy to maintain - the hubs themselves are strong. Likewise, I've never had any problems with spokes either. As I said previously, provided you're not a heavy rider and expecting the durability of a pair of touring wheels, then they are good value - making comparisons with DT Mont Chasserals which were notoriously weak - isn't really a fair comparison.

mentalalex

im only 55kg going to use them for racing.

rake

at your weight they will be superb. thanks for the info on the hubs thats rested my mind. rider weight is everything with wheels, lighter rider weighs less and will put less torque out than 15 stone pounding up a hill. they will last under you.

mentalalex

Cheers guys

ugo.santalucia

Monty Dog wrote:

FWIW the hubs are the latest AmClassic design that are different from the Ritchey ones that were recalled. I've had AmClassic hubs previously, and whilst the bearings aren't the most robust - they are quite small, they are very cheap and easy to maintain - the hubs themselves are strong. Likewise, I've never had any problems with spokes either. As I said previously, provided you're not a heavy rider and expecting the durability of a pair of touring wheels, then they are good value - making comparisons with DT Mont Chasserals which were notoriously weak - isn't really a fair comparison.

There is some light stuff which is quality, but the superlight cyclingware is rubbish... all of it... 1.4 Kg wheels, 900 grams frames, bars, tyres, you name it...
I bought once a Dura Ace titanium cassette, weight save probably 40 grams... you should see how the titanium teeth wore three times quicker than the steel ones... after 3000 miles you could use them as toothpricks... all utter rubbish

rake

thats true with blocks. but hes a very light rider, there shouldnt be any problem.