Cycling Club Politics
disgruntledgoat
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Does anybody else ever get really peed off with them? I just wrote a big long screed about it but realised it was very dull. But surely I can't be the only one who gets sick of power-trips, squabbles and people's pettiness.
"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Yip.
I get enough grief at work re meetings, minutes, power-trips, back-stabbings, etc.......so, I started my own club, with no agenda, constitution, AGM's, EGM's, M&M's.......just half-a-dozen mates, albeit that we are located throughout the UK, who get together as often as circumstances allow. We do a couple of sportives a year together, and everyone is free to enter into local TT's, races, etc, under the team banner, wearing the team jersey.
Works for us, so far.0 -
Yep, same going on in work at the mo. The kind of pathetic behaviour by adults (age range 30-50) that my young nieces (age range 1-5) would get a telling off for.0
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I lasted about a year in a cycling club, a long time ago. It's why I've never liked clubs of any sort. Something in me is allergic to organisations like this. They suit some people, but I'd rather make casual arrangements with friends.0
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Rise above it.
If someones saying mean things to you, get over it. MTFU.
Same with office politics, if you have enough spare time to get involved with office politics then get off your ass and work. use your extra energy that isn't being spent on office politics to show your potential and climb the corporate ladder.
Results speak for themselves, ideas speak for themselves, show some intiative.
Nobody ever got anywhere by bitching about how others got in their way."I hold it true, what'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost;
Than never to have loved at all."
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nolf wrote:Rise above it.
If someones saying mean things to you, get over it. MTFU.
Same with office politics, if you have enough spare time to get involved with office politics then get off your ass and work. use your extra energy that isn't being spent on office politics to show your potential and climb the corporate ladder.
Results speak for themselves, ideas speak for themselves, show some intiative.
Nobody ever got anywhere by bitching about how others got in their way.
Nobody said that anyone was saying 'mean' things about them. No one said that they were involved with office politics either....
As I read it, the posters on this thread were together in that they couldn't be ars*d with office/club politics.....
Had to laugh at the thought of someone being 'mean' to me.....they'd only do it once...
You thought of a career in motivational speaking???0 -
Angus444 wrote:Nobody said that anyone was saying 'mean' things about them. No one said that they were involved with office politics either....
As I read it, the posters on this thread were together in that they couldn't be ars*d with office/club politics.....
That's my situation. Can't be ars*d with them so I leave them to it.
Next thing I know I'm pulled up for not getting "involved" enough in the team. If that means joining in the back-stabbing, well, see ya....0 -
Pretty much my situation exactly... I've been trying to get a really good HC organised within my club for 5 years. Got no help with it as I'm not in the ruling clique. Another local club have the event in their calender this year.... so I've joined them.
Last straws for me were an e mail going round everyone saying that if their 2010 subs weren't in by 28th of jan they were no longer welcome and nobody would be allowed to renew after then, and the same guy getting all hot under the collar because we had to move the road race (that he's never shown any interest in) and the guy who organises it getting a roasting, via e mail, for not running it by El Jefe.
So I left and joined a different club. Shame as i'd been there since 2004 and really enjoyed the majority of my time."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I believe someone called Jezmo wrote the definitive paper on this subject.
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... ht=sotonia
Read and weep.
Where the neon madmen climb0 -
As if hard work ever helped someone climb the corporate ladder! Those that do tend to do so because they've played office politics successfully. :roll:nolf wrote:Same with office politics, if you have enough spare time to get involved with office politics then get off your ass and work. use your extra energy that isn't being spent on office politics to show your potential and climb the corporate ladder.0 -
Oh god! I didn't come across as a Jezmo-style crazy did I? That was absolutely not my intention... I just wanted to express my frustration a little!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Hmm, I got fed up with the 'ruling clique' after a couple of years in my club so decided to stand for the committee. Turned out they weren't such a clique after all and were only too happy too stand down and allow some young blood in - I then realised how much they actually did for the club. Have you tried standing for election? If they are doing such a bad job it should be relatively easy to find club members to support you.0
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iain_j wrote:Yep, same going on in work at the mo. The kind of pathetic behaviour by adults (age range 30-50) that my young nieces (age range 1-5) would get a telling off for.
It's a complete myth that people grow out of that kind of thing.
They just learn how to disguise it better.Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.0 -
Angus444 wrote:Yip.
I get enough grief at work re meetings, minutes, power-trips, back-stabbings, etc.......so, I started my own club, with no agenda, constitution, AGM's, EGM's, M&M's.......just half-a-dozen mates, albeit that we are located throughout the UK, who get together as often as circumstances allow. We do a couple of sportives a year together, and everyone is free to enter into local TT's, races, etc, under the team banner, wearing the team jersey.
Works for us, so far.
Does your 'virtual' club organise sportives, TT's or races? Realise that the vast majority of events are organised by 'real' clubs, and without them you'd have no events to ride. Organisation requires funding, funding requires oversight, and oversight dictates the need for beurocracy.
If anyone is in a club where there is a committee member who is playing politics, they should stand to replace that member.To err is human, but to make a real balls up takes a super computer.0 -
Angus444 wrote:Nobody said that anyone was saying 'mean' things about them. No one said that they were involved with office politics either....
As I read it, the posters on this thread were together in that they couldn't be ars*d with office/club politics.....
You thought of a career in motivational speaking???
Sorry I'm sure I saw someone make a comment that touched on office politics, dementia is hitting me early.
I totally agree with those who can't be arsed with petty politics. Is there nothing more important in their lives?
Surely the club politics are only important when trying to change something though?
I can see it becoming a problem when trying to get a new event sorted and want the clubs assistance. But why not bypass the club hierarchy?
In a relatively small organisation like a bike club, a single individual can force through ideas just by doing the majority of the work and then presenting them with the fait accompli.
When I wanted to change things at my cycle club, I just did them.
It can cheese people off, but if you avoid using the new idea you're doing as a platform to launch your own petty attacks, people will generally react well to someone willing to do some work...
I'm going to write a book on motivation- possibly entitled
"How I M'edTFU and enacted change""I hold it true, what'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost;
Than never to have loved at all."
Alfred Tennyson0 -
nolf wrote:Rise above it.
If someones saying mean things to you, smack 'em square in the face and shout swear words at them. MTFU.
Same with office politics, if you have enough spare time to get involved with office politics then get off your ass and work. use your extra energy that isn't being spent on office politics to show your potential and climb the corporate ladder.
:roll: Results speak for themselves, ideas speak for themselves, show some intiative.
Nobody ever got anywhere by bitching about how others got in their way.
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