Do you think this bike will be to small for me ?
sibike
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Had a look on wiggle and noticed the cayo at a good price BUT i think the 56cm might be to small and there are no 58cm left .The size guide says a 56cm fits someone upto 6ft but i am 6ft 1" .How much difference does that inch make . I curently have a 58cm trek and wonder how much difference there would be between the 2 bikes and wether it would possible to get the cayo to fit me like the trek does .
Should i just give upon the idea of the cayo and just wait for another to come along .
I no wiggle do the 7 day return but dont want to waste peoples time if its never going to be right .
Should i just give upon the idea of the cayo and just wait for another to come along .
I no wiggle do the 7 day return but dont want to waste peoples time if its never going to be right .
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What kind of Trek do you have?0
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Even better than just telling us the kind of Trek you have can we see a picture of it set up as you ride it?
For example if you have a Trek Pilot then the difference will be 1.2cm shorter top tube, but the head tube is a massive 5.5 cm lower on the Focus. This means you are going to have a longer stem, more spacers and probably need to point the stem up to get into the same position as the Pilot. There is a maximum height of spacers you can have so interested to see how much drop you have on your Trek.0 -
its a trek 1400 . not sure about posting a pic as not done this before .
here are some dimensions :
seat tube on trek 58 - cayo 56 cm
head/steerer tube trek 14cm - cayo 15 cm
top tube trek 56(ish) - cayo 55.5 cm
lower rear stay trek 41.5 - cayo 40.5
wheel to wheel centres trek 99.5 - cayo 97.4
stems both 110mm
also my crank arms are 175mm on trek but 172.5mm on cayo ,not sure what 2.5 mm difference makes.
hope these figures help.0 -
The biggest difference is the seat tube, but I would not worry about this as a seat post is adjustable. It is the top tube and head tube sizes are more important and those sizes are pretty close.
2.5mm on the cranks isn't going to make a difference.0 -
cheers for reply chirg , i think i might of sussed out how to do a pic.
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been in touch with wiggle and they said reach would be the only issue ,could a longer stem sort this or is it not that simple .0
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a longer stem would sort it, depending on how much longer you would need to go 10-20mm would be fine though I personally wouldn't go much beyond 20mm as it's then going to start having a noticable effect on how the bike handles.0
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Main differnece will be the drop to the bars for same saddle height the tops of the bars will be 2cm lower on the 56cm compared to the 58cm, so that may be too uncomfortable.
What you don;t say is how many spacers you have on the Trek, if these are minimal, then you could have some spacers on the 56 and the drop might be very similar. Also the stem angle will make a difference. You could just used an upturned stem on the new bike to get the bars higher, but some folks don;t like that for aesthetic reasonss.
I think with some juggling of stem angle, stem length, spacers and maybe saddle setback, you would probably get the same contact points on a 56 as a 58... not sure how that might effect handling etc.0 -
You probably can make it fit with a longer stem and some adjustment of the headset spacers and stem angle, but that will place you further over the front wheel, which is going to feel different.
You're probably comfortable on your current bike, so you should look to replicate that setup as much as possible with the new bike.
I suggest you compare the geometry of the 58cm Cayo and see if it is a closer fit, if it is, then that's what you'll need.0 -
Sorry Juggler not sure that is not correct. Comparing the Trek to the Cayo I read that the head tube is1cm higher on the Cayo?sibike wrote:head/steerer tube trek 14cm - cayo 15 cm
Looking at the picture our fellow forumer could easily reduce the stack hight compared to the of the Trek.
The 58 Cayo compared to the Trek for Hudders....
seat tube on trek 58 - cayo 58 cm
head/steerer tube trek 14cm - cayo 17 cm
top tube trek 56(ish) - cayo 57 cm
lower rear stay trek 41.5 - cayo 40.5
wheel to wheel centres trek 99.5 - cayo 99.5
stems both 110mm
SiBike would have to hope he could get the stem low enough on the 58 and run a shorter stem to have a comparable position to the Trek.0 -
Chirg - you may be right, that does seem a big difference, although it may not translate to a difference in actual saddle to bar drop.
Anyone the only real way is to look carefully at the geometry. I have a Trek and the seat tube is measured from centre of bottom bracket to the top of the collar (so actually a bit higher than the top of the top tube). Which in terms of measuring by seat tube puts the Trek on the small size relative to the advertise framesize. So probably good news if looking to go from a 58 Trek to a 56 in something else.0 -
hi, i am 6ft and ride a 56cm fondriest with 170mm cranks cant remember lenght of handlebar stem but its quite long.have ridden this for past 5 years no problems.0
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Chirg wrote:Sorry Juggler not sure that is not correct. Comparing the Trek to the Cayo I read that the head tube is1cm higher on the Cayo?sibike wrote:head/steerer tube trek 14cm - cayo 15 cm
Looking at the picture our fellow forumer could easily reduce the stack hight compared to the of the Trek.
The 58 Cayo compared to the Trek for Hudders....
seat tube on trek 58 - cayo 58 cm
head/steerer tube trek 14cm - cayo 17 cm
top tube trek 56(ish) - cayo 57 cm
lower rear stay trek 41.5 - cayo 40.5
wheel to wheel centres trek 99.5 - cayo 99.5
stems both 110mm
SiBike would have to hope he could get the stem low enough on the 58 and run a shorter stem to have a comparable position to the Trek.
Isn't that comparison for a 58cm Cayo though? The OP was for a 56cm Cayo. Should be possible to get the smaller Cayo to the right fit with a flipped stem and / or extra spacer.0 -
Do Wiggle still offer returns policy on bikes? If so just order and try it out...0
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Pross - Hudders thought it would be a good idea to compare the 58 CayoHudders wrote:I suggest you compare the geometry of the 58cm Cayo and see if it is a closer fit, if it is, then that's what you'll need.
so that is why I didChirg wrote:The 58 Cayo compared to the Trek for Hudders....
Proves to me that the 56 Cayo would be a better fit0 -
Ah, sorry. Yep, that seems to be the case.
As Cyclingpunk says make use of the Wiggle trial period problem will be getting out in this weather and keeping it in good enough condition to return!0 -
Pross - If you are anything like me the problem is in this weather is I spend more time looking at new bikes than riding!0
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to keep you updated - been working away this week and went to bite the bullet and order 1 earlier but they have all gone . a bit gutted . couldnt order sooner because i was not here to receive it when delivered plus the weather would of made it impossible to test ride .
back to the drawing board plus more time to save .thanks for all the replies.0 -
At least now you can find a bike that fits!0
