New Hydraulic Brakes

dave1294
dave1294 Posts: 46
edited December 2009 in MTB buying advice
Hi. ive decided to upgrade my current brakes that came as standard with my hardrock 09. Is a set of juicy recommended by many, if so which model? and is buying second hand a bad thing? Thanks all.

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    so what were your old brakes?
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • Dan Dare
    Dan Dare Posts: 367
    I replaced the mechanical disc brakes on my 2010 hardrock with these Avid juicy threes (brand new) and they are a big improvement on the old ones. They bolt straight on if you have the mounts on your frame/forks/hubs, are you upgrading from V brakes or mechanical discs?
  • oh thankyou, nice that its handy they bolt on as i am currently using the mechanical disc brakes. Adding to this then, what would be the benefit of upgrading the rotor aswell?
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    are your brake and gear pods separate?
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • Dan Dare
    Dan Dare Posts: 367
    dave1294 wrote:
    oh thankyou, nice that its handy they bolt on as i am currently using the mechanical disc brakes. Adding to this then, what would be the benefit of upgrading the rotor aswell?

    The rotors come with the Juicy threes (or at least they did from the supplier I linked to on eBay above), also that ebay seller sells them direct from here along with some other sets that might be worth a look at.
  • biff55
    biff55 Posts: 1,404
    good value brakes but recent posts on the forum suggest they leak oil like an old tractor.
  • diy
    diy Posts: 6,473
    You will need to change the rotors too, as many of the mechanical disc brakes come with budget rotors than can only be used with resin pads. As soon as you put a sintered pad on it will destroy the rotor within a couple of weeks riding.

    there is nothing wrong with Avid brakes, The J3s are fine and to be honest there isn't much difference between the 3s and the 7s other than some extra adjustment.

    I would definitely look at second hand, provided you assume new pads, and a bleed kit in the price. I picked up my J7s used for 130 quid. They are 203/185mm. No offence, but a hardrock is a budget/entry level bike and you really want to avoid spending loads of money upgrading it to the point where you've blown 700 quid on new forks, brakes and wheels and have a well spec'd budget bike, with a heavy frame.

    having said that new brakes and then possibly better forx will make a huge difference.
  • biff55
    biff55 Posts: 1,404
    for £130 you can get brand new front / rear set of elixir 5's.
    for that money i would'nt p*ss about with second hand Juicy 3's.
  • ok great learning some new stuff here :D will have a look around then, but i didnt think that the frame on my bike was such a bad one, thought it was just the components.
    nicklouse sorry i dont understand what u meant about the pods :s
  • just had a look and i like the look of the Hayes
    http://www.woollyhatshop.com/view_product.php?id=1939
    will the bigger disc fit my bike?
    http://www.jacksbikes.com/contents/en-us/d901.html

    if i went for the juicy 3 which pads are compatible?

    would i be able to fit the brakes myself?
    any useful comments appreciated :D thx again.
  • Steve_b77
    Steve_b77 Posts: 1,680
    If you can push to £169 go for the SLX from Merlin.

    Much better brakes, far easier to change pads etc and easier to work on - bleed.

    Very powerful too :D
  • bit over budget im afraid, otherwise i would spend a bit more :P
  • Steve_b77
    Steve_b77 Posts: 1,680
    How about the new 2010 shimno Deore then?

    Yet again excellent brakes and probably within budget at around £140 :?:
  • ill take them into consideration but was kinda looking at £100 and less for the set :/
    thanks nonethless! :)