£180 and some stuff out of my* spares bin...
Alex
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Not bad eh?
*Whyamihere's spares bin also contributed some singlespeed equipment
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looks nice that does 8)CUBE ltd 2012,reba sl, XT, saint, DMR, spank, current xc/am ride
GIANT boulder, marzzochi EXR, LX/alivio, DMR, spank, retro build0 -
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needs more gears and an extra portion of suspension but thats ace especially for the money!0
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Spec:
Frame: Genesis IO
Forks: Toras
Bars: Easton EA30
Stem: Specialized
Headset: Cane Creek S3
Grips: Gusset
Bar Ends: Gusset
Front Brake: Avid Juicy 3
Rear Brake: Avid Juicy 3
Seat: Scott
Seat Post: FSA
Cranks: Saint
Chainring(s): Shimano (probably) 32t
Chain: Sram PC59
Cassette: Shimano DX 16t
Pedals: Shimano DX
Bottom Bracket: Saint
Front Wheel: DT420
Tire: Panaracer Mud Pro
Back Wheel: DT420
Tire: Panaracer Mud Pro
Weight: 26lbs/11.8kg
Other info: Brakes are shite.0 -
whyamihere wrote:Spec:
Frame: Genesis IO
Forks: Toras
Bars: Easton EA30
Stem: Specialized
Headset: Cane Creek S3
Grips: Gusset
Bar Ends: Gusset
Front Brake: Avid Juicy 3
Rear Brake: Avid Juicy 3
Seat: Scott
Seat Post: FSA
Cranks: Saint
Chainring(s): Truvativ
Chain: Sram PC59
Cassette: Shimano DX 16t
Pedals: Crank Bros Mallets
Bottom Bracket: Saint
Front Wheel: DT420
Tire: Panaracer Mud Pro
Back Wheel: DT420
Tire: Panaracer Mud Pro
Weight: 26lbs/11.8kg
Other info: Brakes now fully functional.0 -
nice spec! what was wrong with the brakes? just needed bleeding? i've always found juicy 3's to be pretty good for the money.0
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They're terrible brakes. Which is why they came off my stumpy and landed heavily in my spares bin.
However, some cleaning and some new pads and they're now suitably adequate. They were pants last night as they weren't exactly bedded in.0 -
what makes them 'terrible'? my experiences have been nothing but good.0
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for 180 quid thats awesome!0
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ilovedirt wrote:what makes them 'terrible'? my experiences have been nothing but good.
Underpowered, inconsistent, an absolute nightmare to bleed. A liability on a fair sized descent in summer. You can't swap pads out on the trail easily (You need pliers), you need to remove the wheel to remove the pads. Ease of postmounted caliper removal spoiled by the entirely pointless avid 3 dimensional stack of washers thingy which means using extra long bolts and counting in those bloody washers every time you have to remove the caliper.
The equivalent shimano, the SLX is well powered, easy to set up, a child could bleed it well, it uses normal bolts, normal adapters, normal size rotors.
BUT, these 3s are adequate for the job of slowing down a budget bike. So that's the job they're doing. Doesn't mean that I have to think they're any good though. That I was surprised today when they worked well says a lot.0 -
Nice tires!0
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Alex wrote:ilovedirt wrote:what makes them 'terrible'? my experiences have been nothing but good.
Underpowered, inconsistent, an absolute nightmare to bleed. A liability on a fair sized descent in summer. You can't swap pads out on the trail easily (You need pliers), you need to remove the wheel to remove the pads. Ease of postmounted caliper removal spoiled by the entirely pointless avid 3 dimensional stack of washers thingy which means using extra long bolts and counting in those bloody washers every time you have to remove the caliper.
The equivalent shimano, the SLX is well powered, easy to set up, a child could bleed it well, it uses normal bolts, normal adapters, normal size rotors.
BUT, these 3s are adequate for the job of slowing down a budget bike. So that's the job they're doing. Doesn't mean that I have to think they're any good though. That I was surprised today when they worked well says a lot.
Agree with all the above, never experienced Avids before my current build, never want to again.0 -
Alex wrote:ilovedirt wrote:what makes them 'terrible'? my experiences have been nothing but good.
Underpowered, inconsistent, an absolute nightmare to bleed. A liability on a fair sized descent in summer. You can't swap pads out on the trail easily (You need pliers), you need to remove the wheel to remove the pads. Ease of postmounted caliper removal spoiled by the entirely pointless avid 3 dimensional stack of washers thingy which means using extra long bolts and counting in those bloody washers every time you have to remove the caliper.
The equivalent shimano, the SLX is well powered, easy to set up, a child could bleed it well, it uses normal bolts, normal adapters, normal size rotors.
BUT, these 3s are adequate for the job of slowing down a budget bike. So that's the job they're doing. Doesn't mean that I have to think they're any good though. That I was surprised today when they worked well says a lot.0 -
Strange that you had problems with the M4's, probably the most simply brake to bleed all you need is a ring spanner and a tube. The performance of the Hopes are brilliant, pad changes easy unless your hands are cold then the retaining clip is fiddly. The Juicy 3's pig to bleed, awkward pad change and simple to align. Can't comment on the performance as the first time I've used them on a build up for a mate but don't expect the same levels as the Hopes.0
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in relation to the issue of the 3d spacer thingy which helps alignment, when removing the caliper you just unscrew it from the mount adapter as it doesn't affect the caliper as much, well that's how i do it on my &'s anyway.
I now have Hope M4 and V2's on my bike and wish when setting them up there was a 3d spacer to help alignment, but once sorted they are awesome brakes and no problem with rubbing or squeaking.
Bleding I can't help with not done it on either set yet0 -
*Sits smiling smugly with his Formulas*0