Ti winter bike?! Full mudguards etc.

airbusboy
airbusboy Posts: 231
edited December 2009 in Road buying advice
Evening,

I realise there is a similar post a few pages back, but i think this differs slightly.

Currently looking at building a training bike kitted-out for winter, with a ti frame; I want able to accept full mudguards (not just crud-racers etc), and comfy enough for long rides and commutes occasionally

A few frames have come to light, but unaware of there 'mudguard taking ability' , and any advice from people owning these (or similar) frames, or who have done research into it?!

VN Euro's,
PX Sportive
Sabbath sept, or silk road
Enigma Echo, Eclipse....
Any others???? (avoided lynskey and litespeed as they are a tad expensive)

All advice is welcome. Cheers

AB
'Ride hard for those who can't.....'

Comments

  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    VN Euros has no mudguard fittings - maybe you mean Yukon..?
  • airbusboy
    airbusboy Posts: 231
    I didn't think you needed to have mudguard fittings to fit f'guards? just attach to the rear stays etc?
    'Ride hard for those who can't.....'
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    airbusboy wrote:
    I didn't think you needed to have mudguard fittings to fit f'guards? just attach to the rear stays etc?

    That's possible if you have sufficient clearance.
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  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    I have a VN Yukon, which takes full guards.
    But, if the PX Sportive will take a full guard, I'd be considering one of them, they have one on offer, with Dura Ace at around £1900... :wink:

    The Yukon is good for me, though.
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  • airbusboy
    airbusboy Posts: 231
    I'm trying to establish whether or not the bikes above had sufficient clearance?!

    How do you find the Yukon, wasn't sure if it would be slightly too touring for moi?!

    Px is very tempting, but the VN's are slightly more aesthetically pleasing??
    'Ride hard for those who can't.....'
  • owenlars
    owenlars Posts: 719
    Enigma Echo and Eclipse no mudguard fittings. You should look at the Etape excellent piece of equipment
  • airbusboy
    airbusboy Posts: 231
    I realise quite a few of the bikes don't have mudguard fittings, but i was seeing if people knew if you could get full size ones on even if you have to attach to the rear stays
    'Ride hard for those who can't.....'
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    Planet X Sportive definitely takes full mudguards, here's mine, only ridden 3 times so far!

    PlanetxTisportive.jpg
  • airbusboy
    airbusboy Posts: 231
    Cheers for the picture, very nice!!

    Are you pleased with it?! What size did you go for? i'm on the boarderline for medium or large......
    'Ride hard for those who can't.....'
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    If you buy a Planet X Sportive, be sure to specify the fork that has eyelets and clearance for guards. It's a great frame.
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    I went for XL which fits me perfectly. I like a racey feel (that is perhaps at odds with a Sportive style frame) but I managed to get a comfortable fit by flipping the stem.

    It really is a beautiful ride, very smooth, quiet - magic carpet like over bad roads 8)
  • lfcquin
    lfcquin Posts: 470
    Sabbath September defo has mudguard eyelets and clearance. Silk Road doesn't.
  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    If you look on classifieds Greg Roche (Sabbath's MD) is advertising an unridden Sabbath demonstrator with full guards and SRAM Rival kit at a hefty discount (11 Dec, currently on page 6).

    If you don't want the complete bike he may be willing to sell you the frame if you beg nicely.
  • airbusboy
    airbusboy Posts: 231
    Cheers for the heads-up Smoking Joe
    'Ride hard for those who can't.....'
  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    airbusboy wrote:
    I'm trying to establish whether or not the bikes above had sufficient clearance?!

    How do you find the Yukon, wasn't sure if it would be slightly too touring for moi?!

    Px is very tempting, but the VN's are slightly more aesthetically pleasing??

    I like riding my Yukon, very much.
    I wouldn't say it was 'too touring' by nature. But I do feel the difference from the more forgiving Ti material.
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  • airbusboy
    airbusboy Posts: 231
    I plan to try the bikes out, although i'm currently in L'don, so will need to allocate a day to head-up north for PX, and also find a dealer with a 54" Euro's and Yukon....
    'Ride hard for those who can't.....'
  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    airbusboy wrote:
    I plan to try the bikes out, although i'm currently in L'don, so will need to allocate a day to head-up north for PX, and also find a dealer with a 54" Euro's and Yukon....

    Try Fat Birds in deepest Northest Norfolk, for VN, Sabbath, Enigma, Merlin, etc...
    Start with a budget, finish with a mortgage!
  • JamesB
    JamesB Posts: 1,184
    I find my Yukon is a great all rounder bike :) ...used for winter riding with full guards, sportives and riding in Pyrenees; a little slower (talking a couple of minute in an hours riding maybe) than my `full on` carbon road bike (Viner Mitus / Record / Chorus) but by no means `too touring`; I think the VN Amazon may fall into that category
  • Opotopo
    Opotopo Posts: 25
    + 1 for Yukon's - best all round bike I've ever had

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