OT: Rage against the Cowell

Clever Pun

Fu<k you I wont tidy my bedroom

Anyways buy the Rage Against the Machine single from itunes or wherever and help give money to shelter the homeless organisation

Here's a little clip from Radio 5 where they say naughty words. "Lets get christmasy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWaX8P1nqyg

Also this clip is rather amusing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AYUqVNSsY

iPete

Wish I could watch them but +1 to getting this to number 1.

tailwindhome

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)
I


Also I've already downloaded the original Hannah Montana version of 'The Climb' for my daughters MP3. It's really quite catchy.



*use of that one word tells an awful lot about me :oops:

Stuey01

I have bought it and am spreading the word (see the thread on Cake Stop)

fury21

I bought it (RATM)

Personally, I'm somewhere between feeling its just a bit of fun and sticking two fingers up to the X Factor. I don't have anything against Cowell - he's simply found a formula that generates a lot of cash (mostly for himself) - I'm just fed up with TV being ruled by crap phone-vote shows on multiple nights per week. Here's a crazy idea, get some decent script writers and actually make interesting TV shows... I know, I know, why bother when X factor and "Strictly" pull in millions of viewers?

*sigh*

http://ratm4xmas.co.uk/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8418158.stm

Clever Pun

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)
I


Also I've already downloaded the original Hannah Montana version of 'The Climb' for my daughters MP3. It's really quite catchy.



*use of that one word tells an awful lot about me :oops:

Read my post, your money helps the homeless.....

Clever Pun

fury21 wrote:

I bought it (RATM)

Personally, I'm somewhere between feeling its just a bit of fun and sticking two fingers up to the X Factor. I don't have anything against Cowell - he's simply found a formula that generates a lot of cash (mostly for himself) - I'm just fed up with TV being ruled by crap phone-vote shows on multiple nights per week. Here's a crazy idea, get some decent script writers and actually make interesting TV shows... I know, I know, why bother when X factor and "Strictly" pull in millions of viewers?

*sigh*

http://ratm4xmas.co.uk/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8418158.stm

you're right but the problem is tv reality phone in programs are cheap and very profitable and the masses seem to like them *shakes head* each to their own I guess even if they're wrong and grotesquely ugly

tarquin_foxglove

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)

I've illegally downloaded both, sticking it to Cowell, Sony & the 'man' in one fell swoop.

gtvlusso

I wish someone had started a get "Cradle of Filth" to Xmas number one.....

But, I am cool with Rage....downloads a plenty. I think Tom Morello has added some support too!

Stuey01

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.

True, but it is about denying them the prestigious xmas no.1 they have come to expect.

I'll be 79p (or whatever) down

if this is significant then feel free not to participate. wouldn't want anyone's kids going hungry.

Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)
I

True, I don't think the person who started the campaign was aware of this at the time, however I don't think it is about the money as stated above.

Also I've already downloaded the original Hannah Montana version of 'The Climb' for my daughters MP3. It's really quite catchy.
:

Each to their own.

mattybain

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)
I


Also I've already downloaded the original Hannah Montana version of 'The Climb' for my daughters MP3. It's really quite catchy.



*use of that one word tells an awful lot about me :oops:

It's 29p on Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/Killing-In-The- ... 388&sr=1-1 not sure why, maybe they want to stick it to Cowell as well!

daniel_b

mattybain wrote:

It's 29p on Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/Killing-In-The- ... 388&sr=1-1 not sure why, maybe they want to stick it to Cowell as well!

There is potential, due to the price I believe, or maybe just because it is Amazon, that it does not count towards sales figures.

HMV etc defo does apparently.

Dan

DonDaddyD

Both acts aren't signed to the same label.

Yes Sony own both Syco and Epic but they are the labels and Sony is the parent holding company.

tailwindhome

Clever Pun wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)
I


Also I've already downloaded the original Hannah Montana version of 'The Climb' for my daughters MP3. It's really quite catchy.



*use of that one word tells an awful lot about me :oops:

Read my post, your money helps the homeless.....

All of it?

tailwindhome

tarquin_foxglove wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)

I've illegally downloaded both, sticking it to Cowell, Sony & the 'man' in one fell swoop.

I like how you think

tailwindhome

DonDaddyD wrote:

Both acts aren't signed to the same label.

Yes Sony own both Syco and Epic but they are the labels and Sony is the parent holding company.

Cowell's income is uneffected

Will Sony be donating their cut to the homeless

tailwindhome

Stuey01 wrote:

'll be 79p (or whatever) down

if this is significant then feel free not to participate. wouldn't want anyone's kids going hungry.

Now that was sarcasm for no other reason than sarcasm.

It may not be significant, but it is my 79p.

Do I really want to spend it so that one record sells more than another record?

Is this not the mentally of those who vote for the Jedward's of this world.

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.

Stuey wrote:

True, but it is about denying them the prestigious xmas no.1 they have come to expect.

I think you have this the worng way round. The Xmas number one isn't the objective, selling the record is

Labels desire the christmas number one in order to promote sales of their singles, like winning an oscar promotes a film.

In fact X Factor sales can only be increased by this campaign

cee

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

Both acts aren't signed to the same label.

Yes Sony own both Syco and Epic but they are the labels and Sony is the parent holding company.

Will Sony be donating their cut to the homeless

no but ratm have said they will donate a percentage of the income from the sales this christmas to a charity supporting young impoverished musicians....

no bad thing in light of the death of music caused by xfactor and the like.

DonDaddyD

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

Both acts aren't signed to the same label.

Yes Sony own both Syco and Epic but they are the labels and Sony is the parent holding company.

Cowell's income is uneffected

Will Sony be donating their cut to the homeless

That's not the point. If your point/argument is about both acts being signed to the same label and therefore any efforts taken don't matter. They aren't signed to the same label, which is the point I'm making.

Personally, for me this isn't even about money its about me supporting a song I love and calling for diversity within the music charts. Cowell has millions on our vote, now I'm voting. Rage!

Stuey01

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Stuey01 wrote:

'll be 79p (or whatever) down

if this is significant then feel free not to participate. wouldn't want anyone's kids going hungry.

Now that was sarcasm for no other reason than sarcasm.

It may not be significant, but it is my 79p.

Do I really want to spend it so that one record sells more than another record?

Is this not the mentally of those who vote for the Jedward's of this world.

Fair cop, it was a bit harsh. It is your 79p, if you don't want to spend it on this then don't. Why you feel the need to post repeatedly about it I do not know.

tailwindhome

Stuey01 wrote:

Why you feel the need to post repeatedly about it I do not know.

I was only replying to other posters.

I do recognise a pointless bit of craic when I see it

Clever Pun

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Clever Pun wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)
I


Also I've already downloaded the original Hannah Montana version of 'The Climb' for my daughters MP3. It's really quite catchy.



*use of that one word tells an awful lot about me :oops:

Read my post, your money helps the homeless.....

All of it?

yes, it's hardly lengthy, I don't do storybook DDD style posts, got other things to be doing plus the links are amusing

tailwindhome

DonDaddyD wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

Both acts aren't signed to the same label.

Yes Sony own both Syco and Epic but they are the labels and Sony is the parent holding company.

Cowell's income is uneffected

Will Sony be donating their cut to the homeless

That's not the point. If your point/argument is about both acts being signed to the same label and therefore any efforts taken don't matter. They aren't signed to the same label, which is the point I'm making.

Personally, for me this isn't even about money its about me supporting a song I love and calling for diversity within the music charts. Cowell has millions on our vote, now I'm voting. Rage!

Are the labels not just brand names owned by the same company?

I'm not sure I get the point in bold. The music charts have been irrelevant to most people for years, and I'm sure you don't listen to the radio stations whose playlists would be driven by them.


But hey. Each to their own and all that.

If a charity benefits , all well and good

DonDaddyD

Clever Pun wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Clever Pun wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)
I


Also I've already downloaded the original Hannah Montana version of 'The Climb' for my daughters MP3. It's really quite catchy.



*use of that one word tells an awful lot about me :oops:

Read my post, your money helps the homeless.....

All of it?

yes, it's hardly lengthy, I don't do storybook DDD style posts, got other things to be doing plus the links are amusing

F*ck you I won't do what you tell me!!!!!

DonDaddyD

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

Both acts aren't signed to the same label.

Yes Sony own both Syco and Epic but they are the labels and Sony is the parent holding company.

Cowell's income is uneffected

Will Sony be donating their cut to the homeless

That's not the point. If your point/argument is about both acts being signed to the same label and therefore any efforts taken don't matter. They aren't signed to the same label, which is the point I'm making.

Personally, for me this isn't even about money its about me supporting a song I love and calling for diversity within the music charts. Cowell has millions on our vote, now I'm voting. Rage!

Are the labels not just brand names owned by the same company?

Officially, Epic and Syco are record labels, the parent company is Sony.

Much like Opel, Holden and Vauxhall are car manufacturers and their parent company is GM motors.

I'm not sure I get the point in bold. The music charts have been irrelevant to most people for years, and I'm sure you don't listen to the radio stations whose playlists would be driven by them.

Doesn't matter how long the charts have been in the state they are in, I've remember when they were relevant and its things like X-factor that in my opinion have made the irrelevant. As much as I like the X-factor finals the subsequent songs and promised number 1's has made the charts, radio stations and the like boring. Supporting this, voting makes things exciting.

tailwindhome

Clever Pun wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Clever Pun wrote:

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Have to say I don't see the point

X factor aren't going to sell less records* because of this.
I'll be 79p (or whatever) down
Both acts are signed to the same label (or so I've read)
I


Also I've already downloaded the original Hannah Montana version of 'The Climb' for my daughters MP3. It's really quite catchy.



*use of that one word tells an awful lot about me :oops:

Read my post, your money helps the homeless.....

All of it?

yes, it's hardly lengthy, I don't do storybook DDD style posts, got other things to be doing plus the links are amusing

Buy stuff
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You don't ask much do you?

CharlieWingspan

As far as I can tell the whole thing is just about relieving the tedium of X Factor being Xmas No. 1 every year, the song choice is irrelevant (though having one with the F-word in it makes my inner school boy snigger.) It always used to be part of Xmas seeing who would get the No. 1. It is quite funny to look at Cowells statement that he doesn't care about the Xmas No.1 though, why else does he release them at this time??

sarajoy

What does it need to be other than a bit of fun?

I love that the community can come together and push a song up the charts, one that was released ages ago, to stick two fingers up at the current state of play that they find annoying! Wouldn't have been possible (and, much more expensive) when all singles were physical entities.#

Bring it on

lost_in_thought

Just bought RATM from iTunes...

It's currently iTunes' top song, placing Joe McElderberry or whatever his name is into second...

the_hundredth_idiot

DonDaddyD wrote:

As much as I like the X-factor finals ...

Burn him! Burn the heretic! :twisted:

spen666

Simon Cowell is making mugs of all you buying either record.

This so called race means he wins as he owns both record labels. The increased sales in the race makes him more money