Get Rage Against the Machine to Xmas no.1
Stuey01
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8413557.stm
Download "Killing in the name of"
Got to be worth a quid to deny the X-Factor!
Download "Killing in the name of"
Got to be worth a quid to deny the X-Factor!
Not climber, not sprinter, not rouleur
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This has been mentioned before and in my opinion is a con. Both artists are signed to subsidiaries (Syco and Epic) of Sony, who'll make even more money out of you."There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world, t'would be a pity to damage yours."0
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Despite already having it - I downloaded it last night,
Anything to stop 'thousand teeth' from getting to number 1Expertly coached by http://www.vitessecyclecoaching.co.uk/
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Garry H wrote:Aggieboy wrote:This has been mentioned before and in my opinion is a con. Both artists are signed to subsidiaries (Syco and Epic) of Sony, who'll make even more money out of you.
I really don't think that that's the point of the exercise...
Sony won't be complaining though!
Got a really good e-mail from my mate about this yesterday, nails it for me.If I were Simon Cowell, I'd make next year's X Factor winner do Killing
In The Name Of.
Normally I wouldn't be so irked - of course I don't give a toss about
the charts. But then again, don't RATM fans think that popular stuff
(without guitars and shouting) is just 'pop shid' or 'chart shid' or
whatever? And the charts don't mean anything, maaaan, it's just a
measure of how popular they are, maaaan, and I don't care what's number
one, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
So what's so fupping precious about xmas no.1 that they have to ruin the
fun of people who genuinely do care about the charts? The people who
like the x factor enough to contribute are far more likely to care about
the charts. And a significant proportion of them is likely to be our
mums, little brothers and sisters, maybe even our grans... And perhaps
our dads complaining about it on the sofa but watching it anyway (and
secretly planning to buy it for our mums for xmas)... So they wanna
spoil these people's fun just so they can say they were part of
'democracy in action' when cowell finally stopped telling us what to do
and the man with the dreads got bleeped out on the telly IT WAS SO
FUNNY?
Whoop. How big and clever."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I'm not buying Joe's track, because I don't like it.
I'm not buying Rage Against The Machines either, because I don't follow the rest..... Baaaahh! Baaaaahhhh!!!Start with a budget, finish with a mortgage!0 -
Don't see how it would be a bad thing to see Cowell have the xmas no.1 shoved right back down his throat, the smarmy git.
all your mate's email is missing is:
"won't someboady please think of the children!"
They'll get over it.Not climber, not sprinter, not rouleur0 -
750,000 have joined the facebook page. Almost 20 million watch the xfactor.
Good luck!0 -
Unlike all those Rage fans who, apparantly STILL haven't gotten over the fact that the majority of people don't share their taste in music."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Roscobob wrote:750,000 have joined the facebook page. Almost 20 million watch the xfactor.
Good luck!
viewers don't translate to single sales....
and viewing figures are made up. they ask about 1000 people what they were watching and then multiply to the population of the uk.
last year the christmas no1 got about 700000 sales in the end....Whenever I see an adult on a bicycle, I believe in the future of the human race.
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I think that actually, a lot of people like to identify with a particular band, tribe, or whatever, precisely because they think that it's unpopular.disgruntledgoat wrote:Unlike all those Rage fans who, apparantly STILL haven't gotten over the fact that the majority of people don't share their taste in music.
They then express their non-conformity by looking and acting just like everyone else in the tribe. And in this case, rushing off to download a single 'cos that's what everyone is doing.
Here's a radical suggestion: download/buy/rip off/whatever the music you want to listen to. I'm no great fan of RATM and I find the whole X Factor game repulsive, but I can reasonably claim to enjoy, listen to, own and even play music that would fit with either style. Sorry to be boring and sensible, but sometimes I just can't help it.0 -
cee wrote:Roscobob wrote:750,000 have joined the facebook page. Almost 20 million watch the xfactor.
Good luck!
viewers don't translate to single sales....
and viewing figures are made up. they ask about 1000 people what they were watching and then multiply to the population of the uk.
last year the christmas no1 got about 700000 sales in the end....
Point taken but do you not think the xfactor viewers might react to the challenge?
Don't get me wrong I hope it succeeds, I just can't see it.0 -
bompington wrote:
I think that actually, a lot of people like to identify with a particular band, tribe, or whatever, precisely because they think that it's unpopular.disgruntledgoat wrote:Unlike all those Rage fans who, apparantly STILL haven't gotten over the fact that the majority of people don't share their taste in music.
They then express their non-conformity by looking and acting just like everyone else in the tribe. And in this case, rushing off to download a single 'cos that's what everyone is doing.
Here's a radical suggestion: download/buy/rip off/whatever the music you want to listen to. I'm no great fan of RATM and I find the whole X Factor game repulsive, but I can reasonably claim to enjoy, listen to, own and even play music that would fit with either style. Sorry to be boring and sensible, but sometimes I just can't help it.
+ Several."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I like the delicious irony of the fact that Killing in the name repeats (I'll use early 90's ITV film editing for the swears) forget you I won't do what you tell me! Yet that is what the RATM fans want you to do!
That said, it's a freakin' awesome tune and it reminds me of happy 6th form/uni days...
RATM is pretty good too
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How old do you have to be to give a s*h*i*t about this?Old hippies don't die, they just lie low until the laughter stops and their time comes round again.
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I listened to the whole R.A.T.M album on Sunday for the first time in a while. It's awesome, it's not dated one bit.
X Factor is knob head Karaoke, the song choice and mincer singing it are a clear indicator of who the target audience is.
Simon Cowell doesn't make as much money from records anymore so he uses his silly prime time TV shows and makes a packet from the millions of phone calls........
I'm all for Rage getting the No 1.0 -
iainment wrote:How old do you have to be to give a s*h*i*t about this?
I haven't cared about the charts since I was 18 (1990), but I'm quite interested this week.
I haven't bought the track, I've had the album since the early 90's but it would be good to see Cowell's smug 'master of the universe' attitude given a bit of a knock by a people's uprising - he's all about ego, so it'll hurt him. The winners song is a particularly steaming turd of a record too - not Joe's fault, he seems like he's actually a pretty good singer.Twitter: @RichN950 -
NapoleonD wrote:I like the delicious irony of the fact that Killing in the name repeats (I'll use early 90's ITV film editing for the swears) forget you I won't do what you tell me! Yet that is what the RATM fans want you to do!
It's not about the message from the song. It's about prooving that it's possible to buy music that isn't dictated to you by an awful reality TV show. A long way to go before everyone is able to make their own mind up about music but it's a start!
I've bought my copies, donated to the charity (the fund raising which haters seem to gloss over yet is now at over £40,000!!!) and I hope it beats the tripe that XFactor has to throw at us
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For the reason of X factor turning music into lift muzak and giving the nation a karaoke champ, I downloaded the RATM track. I have the album, but haven't listened to it in years. Forgot "Bombtrack" and how good that is aswell.
If only government could manipulate the general public like Mr Cowell and his pals have. Mr Brown must be so jealous.0 -
mask of sanity wrote:NapoleonD wrote:I like the delicious irony of the fact that Killing in the name repeats (I'll use early 90's ITV film editing for the swears) forget you I won't do what you tell me! Yet that is what the RATM fans want you to do!
It's not about the message from the song. It's about prooving that it's possible to buy music that isn't dictated to you by an awful reality TV show. A long way to go before everyone is able to make their own mind up about music but it's a start!
I've bought my copies, donated to the charity (the fund raising which haters seem to gloss over yet is now at over £40,000!!!) and I hope it beats the tripe that XFactor has to throw at us
Don't be so patronising! You are sayingthat anybody who likes and buys the x factor single is incapable of making their mind up about music? Maybe they just don't like the same music as you, maybe they made their mind up quite happily and like the song and, from watching the show, feel some sort of affinity/identification with the guy singing it. Just beacause people don't agree with you doesn't mean they are dupes does it?
If it isn't about the song, then why Rage? Why not Public Enemy's "Don't believe the hype"? Or the birdy song?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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There's little point in me explaining myself here seeing as you will just misconstrue what I'm saying (as you have here!).disgruntledgoat wrote:Don't be so patronising! You are sayingthat anybody who likes and buys the x factor single is incapable of making their mind up about music? Maybe they just don't like the same music as you, maybe they made their mind up quite happily and like the song and, from watching the show, feel some sort of affinity/identification with the guy singing it. Just beacause people don't agree with you doesn't mean they are dupes does it?
If it isn't about the song, then why Rage? Why not Public Enemy's "Don't believe the hype"? Or the birdy song?0 -
mask of sanity wrote:
There's little point in me explaining myself here seeing as you will just misconstrue what I'm saying (as you have here!).disgruntledgoat wrote:Don't be so patronising! You are sayingthat anybody who likes and buys the x factor single is incapable of making their mind up about music? Maybe they just don't like the same music as you, maybe they made their mind up quite happily and like the song and, from watching the show, feel some sort of affinity/identification with the guy singing it. Just beacause people don't agree with you doesn't mean they are dupes does it?
If it isn't about the song, then why Rage? Why not Public Enemy's "Don't believe the hype"? Or the birdy song?
I'm not trying to be arsey, I'm responding to what I thought you said... If I misconstrued you i'm sorry, rest assured it was not a deliberate attempt to misrepresent what you were saying."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I have to say, whoever expected a band to play a song featuring that particular line live on BBC radio at approx 09:00 today and 'do what they told them' in terms of not mentioning the naughty word, might have been a little naive...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiiQPqmYE1A0
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I'd love it if RATM got to number 1. Great band, great song, brings back happy memories of school days, mates' bands, rock clubs etc. etc.
More to the point, I'd love it if it kept X-Factor off number 1. Of course people have the right to listen to what they choose. What annoys me about X-Factor is:
1) The lazy assumption that the winner will have the Christmas number 1 as part of their prize. Hell, this used to mean something. Its not important in the greater scheme of things, but its killing part of pop music's heritage in this country.
2) The songs are just such bland, lazy cack. Do Cowell and his pals have a "who can find the dullest song" contest? I mean they could at least line up something decent for the winner to sing ratherthan the usual dreary old rubbish that will be forgotten in 5 minutes time.*
For those reasons it would be great if anything could keep X-Factor off number 1, the RATM thing is just a bit of fun to get people to coordinate themselves against Cowell's media behemoth.
* Last year was an exception - a great song, sadly (ahem) I managed to avoid the X-Factor version and have to date never heard it.0 -
That's cool. You ask 'why rage?'. But you could also ask 'why not Rage?'. At the end of the day there had to be a song that was chosen and it needed to be a song that wasn't going to have an overlap of fans. So there is no reason why rage was chosen over your examples. In fact it would have been awesome if it was the Birdy song!disgruntledgoat wrote:mask of sanity wrote:
There's little point in me explaining myself here seeing as you will just misconstrue what I'm saying (as you have here!).disgruntledgoat wrote:Don't be so patronising! You are sayingthat anybody who likes and buys the x factor single is incapable of making their mind up about music? Maybe they just don't like the same music as you, maybe they made their mind up quite happily and like the song and, from watching the show, feel some sort of affinity/identification with the guy singing it. Just beacause people don't agree with you doesn't mean they are dupes does it?
If it isn't about the song, then why Rage? Why not Public Enemy's "Don't believe the hype"? Or the birdy song?
I'm not trying to be arsey, I'm responding to what I thought you said... If I misconstrued you i'm sorry, rest assured it was not a deliberate attempt to misrepresent what you were saying. 0 -
singlespeedexplosif wrote:I have to say, whoever expected a band to play a song featuring that particular line live on BBC radio at approx 09:00 today and 'do what they told them' in terms of not mentioning the naughty word, might have been a little naive...
Did they play it in full? :shock:
I think the song choice was conscious and deliberate, the lyrics are a literal f*ck you to Cowell, X-factor and the monopoly they've had on the xmas number 1 for the last 4 years.Not climber, not sprinter, not rouleur0 -
I love Rage.
I hate that the charts appear to have a severe lack of diversity in the different types of music - but I don't follow the charts (partly because there is no longer a Top of the Pops) so that's mostly an assumption.
If anything a funny outcome would be for Simon Cowell to see a potential business opportunity and repackage X-factor as "Rock Idol"...
Now that would be ironic.Food Chain number = 4
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Purchased & spreading the word, will be great to see this reach number 1. 0
