Preferred pedals? (Cleat type).

hopper1
hopper1 Posts: 4,389
edited December 2009 in Road buying advice
Considering a change of pedal/cleat system.
Presently, I use Shimano SPD-SL. Because of leg length issues and also, pronation/ supination of my feet, I'm considering changing over to Speedplays.
These are bloody expensive, so not changing on a whim :shock:
Good deals to be had on the Ti ones, now...
What are your findings?
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  • You might do well to nip over to Cyclingnews.com and ask in the fitness Q&A area:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/cyc ... ber-4-2009

    If you really have a functional leg length discrepancy problem, choice of pedals might not solve it.
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    hopper1 wrote:
    Considering a change of pedal/cleat system.
    Presently, I use Shimano SPD-SL. Because of leg length issues and also, pronation/ supination of my feet, I'm considering changing over to Spesh Speedplays.
    These are bloody expensive, so not changing on a whim :shock:
    Good deals to be had on the Ti ones, now...
    What are your findings?

    I'm curious as to how Speedplay would be any better(or worse) for you than SPD-SL?
    What would the advantage be to switching?
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    What are Specialized Speedplays?
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  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    What are Specialized Speedplays?

    these are
    :wink:
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  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    edited December 2009
    You might do well to nip over to Cyclingnews.com and ask in the fitness Q&A area:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/cyc ... ber-4-2009

    If you really have a functional leg length discrepancy problem, choice of pedals might not solve it.

    Maybe not. I have Cyclefit shims and BSM wedges to adjust my shoes, with the aid of a podiatrist. It's not just leg length, there is also pronation and supination :shock:

    EDIT: Thanks for the links, theirs some very good info in there.
    dennisn wrote:
    I'm curious as to how Speedplay would be any better(or worse) for you than SPD-SL?
    What would the advantage be to switching?
    I'm not saying they'll be any better, but another option...
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    hopper1 wrote:
    What are Specialized Speedplays?

    these are
    :wink:

    I know what Speedplays are, but what about Specialized Speedplays?
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  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    hopper1 wrote:
    What are Specialized Speedplays?

    these are
    :wink:

    I know what Speedplays are, but what about Specialized Speedplays?

    My mistake, I always thought Speedplays were by Specialized... Not so.
    Now, if you've finished picking holes, perhaps you have something constructive to add... :wink:
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  • sub55
    sub55 Posts: 1,025
    Constructive comment.
    Well hopefully.
    Everybody always raves about speedplays, so a couple of years ago i took the plunge.
    Bought 3 sets of the zeros plus another set of cleats, 4 pairs of shoes in all. First impressions were , these are alright , are`nt they. But soon developed the first snag , even the zeros that have an adjustable float ,wont adjust to nothing . Now i train with a little float but prefer to race with out any . Then after about 8 months, develoed a sore ankle. Think this was down to the contact area of the pedal being too small. now admittedly i`ve got big feet , but my foot would pivot ,left and right on its centre axsis. i dont mean my heel moving left and right, if you could imagine standing on a knife, you`re relying on your ankle to hold your foot parallell to the ground , anyway ,eventually changed back to looks and the problem went away.
    I bet thats the first time you`ve heard anybody say anything negative about speedplays. but i dont rate them.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    hopper1 wrote:
    My mistake, I always thought Speedplays were by Specialized... Not so.
    Now, if you've finished picking holes, perhaps you have something constructive to add... :wink:

    Well I've not used Speedplays, but I use SPD-SLs and Look Keos.

    From what I've heard of speedplays, that their construction is rather "cheap", bearings are poor, and the pedals wear rather quickly. If you need the adjustable float though that might weigh the speedplays to your advantage.

    However look keos with the red cleats can do 9deg float, surely enough?
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,738
    Crank Brothers Quattros? Alot of float there and a lot more pedal contact than speedplays? I ve used them on both MTB and road and although they can't take british MTB conditions the quattros have stood up to a (drier) punishing.....
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  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    Cheers guys.
    I have SPD-SL's, and so far these have been very good.
    Now that I'm going through these adjustments to control my pronation/ supination and the difference in leg length, I thought I would have a look at other different pedal options too.
    Speedplays seem different to SPD-SL's, whereas Look & Time seem fairly similar.
    I'm happy with the float I have at the moment.
    It's just the wedges and shims, internal (in shoe), or external (sole), etc, that I wanted to play with.
    Having read your feedback, I think I'll stick with my SPD-SL's and see how it goes.
    Now I have a couple of hundred quid to spend on something else :wink:
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  • Speedplays every day of t he week, no contest; I have used others and found speedplays to be by far the better pedal. Easy in easy out, keeps foot in place well, variable float, no problems walking in cleats(Coffee shop covers). I have them on both bikes.
  • ajb72
    ajb72 Posts: 1,178
    Speedplays every day of t he week, no contest; I have used others and found speedplays to be by far the better pedal. Easy in easy out, keeps foot in place well, variable float, no problems walking in cleats(Coffee shop covers). I have them on both bikes.

    +1. Easy to maintain, easy to clean. Massive help to my sore knee problem too!
  • hopper1 wrote:
    Considering a change of pedal/cleat system.
    Presently, I use Shimano SPD-SL. Because of leg length issues and also, pronation/ supination of my feet, I'm considering changing over to Speedplays.
    These are bloody expensive, so not changing on a whim :shock:
    Good deals to be had on the Ti ones, now...
    What are your findings?

    Hopper, can I ask who you see for your pronation? I have this problem fairly badly on my left leg but I'm struggling to find anyone who can sort it out. Can you recommend a good cycling podiatrist?

    Thanks
  • eh
    eh Posts: 4,854
    Time aren't the same as Look/SPD-SL. For starters Time have free lateral float which as far as I'm aware none of the other big brands do. They also have rotational float but with a re-centering force. Combine that with a low stack height and Q-factor and they are a great pedal system IMO.
  • neilmacd
    neilmacd Posts: 128
    eh wrote:
    Time aren't the same as Look/SPD-SL. For starters Time have free lateral float which as far as I'm aware none of the other big brands do. They also have rotational float but with a re-centering force. Combine that with a low stack height and Q-factor and they are a great pedal system IMO.

    I use Time RXS pedals myself and have never had any problems with them.
    Used to use Look and ended up with tendonitis in my foot which was pretty painful.
    Took a little bit of time getting used to the different entry/ release but that was only a few rides.
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  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    I run Looks and have done for years (Delta and Keo). Back in January I was sold a pair of Speedplays very cheaply so figured I'd give them a go.

    Truth be told they're not actually any easier to get into than Look, just need a slightly different technique that's all. The Looks are very nearly as good and yet far cheaper, especially if - like me - you're not keen on wacking on cleat covers every time you get off the bike.

    In terms of value for money, I go with the Look every time (although I commute on MTB style SPD for convenience off the bike)

    The Speedplays give you very little extra for the added cost, mine have now been passed on again.
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  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    hopper1 wrote:
    Considering a change of pedal/cleat system.
    Presently, I use Shimano SPD-SL. Because of leg length issues and also, pronation/ supination of my feet, I'm considering changing over to Speedplays.
    These are bloody expensive, so not changing on a whim :shock:
    Good deals to be had on the Ti ones, now...
    What are your findings?

    Hopper, can I ask who you see for your pronation? I have this problem fairly badly on my left leg but I'm struggling to find anyone who can sort it out. Can you recommend a good cycling podiatrist?

    Thanks

    PM'd you the details...
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