All-round all-weather all-year all-terrain do-it-all tyres?

bannedbiker

I'm in the need of a new set of tyres for my hard-tail ride-to-work bike. The specialized LK control's that are on it SUCK.
The trouble is the amount of different surfaces I ride on my route to work. I start on OK roads, then i'm in soggy mud, then wet grass, then rough falling apart roads, then smooth suburbs roads, then very soggy wet mud with wet slippery roots, then more roads, then ex-railway lines (roughly graveled), then hardpack footpaths, then finally more road!
If I get a tyre that rolls well on the roads, its gonna be crap everywhere else, if I get a tyre that will grip will in the mud/roots/grass it will have big rolling resistance on the roads!
HELP!
My first thinking is to go for a pair of Maxxis HighRollers 2.1" in the hard compound.
Other suggestions well welcome!

Mccraque

Maxxis Advantage offer a fair amount of grip without the drag of the high roller.

Then in suimmer stick a crossmark on the rear.

joshtp

high roller 2.35 single ply maxxpro 60a.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... delID=5845

andy46

your ride to work sounds great

bomberesque

+1 for the high roller. I don't find it too draggy (so long as you get the 60a version not the super tacky) although I'm not sure I'd choose to commute on roads on it

nobby nic is also a good all round tyre

another choice, depending on how wet and muddy you're getting, are the Hutchinson python / piranha tyres. They're very low profile though so if you're getting more than a smattering of mud, they will not suffice.

I like Nics and high rollers, but haven't tried Advantages

LoUiS1985

schwalbe racing ralphs

decent grip yet pretty quick and shed mud quickly too!

or try one with a nobby nic on the front for extra traction

nwmlarge

for high rollers click this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

bannedbiker

andy46 wrote:

your ride to work sounds great

Haha, yeah, it aint bad! I've had a couple crashes lately though, as when I try to brake even gently on the grass section my wheels just slide! Tyres that are pretty much slick dont offer much grip on wet grass, and thats hurt once or twice! I also struggle to ride up a soggy muddy wooded section!

A few people have said 2.35" High rollers, yo uguys dont reckon they're a bit wide?!

As for the Hutchinson tyres, I had a pair of bulldogs that came on my Giant Reign, worst tyres I've ever used! The python/pirahna's must be better than the bulldogs then?!

I've just had a look at the advantage, it looks like the high roller would have less rolling resistance?

dave_hill

bannedbiker wrote:

I'm in the need of a new set of tyres for my hard-tail ride-to-work bike. The specialized LK control's that are on it SUCK.
The trouble is the amount of different surfaces I ride on my route to work. I start on OK roads, then i'm in soggy mud, then wet grass, then rough falling apart roads, then smooth suburbs roads, then very soggy wet mud with wet slippery roots, then more roads, then ex-railway lines (roughly graveled), then hardpack footpaths, then finally more road!
If I get a tyre that rolls well on the roads, its gonna be crap everywhere else, if I get a tyre that will grip will in the mud/roots/grass it will have big rolling resistance on the roads!
HELP!
My first thinking is to go for a pair of Maxxis HighRollers 2.1" in the hard compound.
Other suggestions well welcome!

So basically you're looking for a lightweight, cheap, low rolling resitance tyre that will grip in the wet and dry, sheds mud easily and won't wear out if it you look sideways at it...

Ain't no such thing. If there was we'd all be using them...

frogstomp

Your ride to work sounds a bit like my local rides.. I'm using Panaracer Fire XC Pros which seem to do the job pretty well, although in heavy mud I've just resorted to a Mud Pro on the back to cut through to the grip.

joshtp

bannedbiker wrote:

andy46 wrote:

your ride to work sounds great

Haha, yeah, it aint bad! I've had a couple crashes lately though, as when I try to brake even gently on the grass section my wheels just slide! Tyres that are pretty much slick dont offer much grip on wet grass, and thats hurt once or twice! I also struggle to ride up a soggy muddy wooded section!

A few people have said 2.35" High rollers, yo uguys dont reckon they're a bit wide?!

As for the Hutchinson tyres, I had a pair of bulldogs that came on my Giant Reign, worst tyres I've ever used! The python/pirahna's must be better than the bulldogs then?!

I've just had a look at the advantage, it looks like the high roller would have less rolling resistance?

no, i wodnt say the 2.35 is too big, high rollers come up VERY small, the 2.1 is like some 1.9's, the 2.35 isnt huge, like many 2.1's i use 2.5's, and they are like most 2.3's

bomberesque

I have 2.1 HR on my single speed and 2.35s on my HT. the 2.1s are fine if you don't want a big tyre. the 2.35s offer more traction and confidence though, if you need that (and have the clearance).

hoathy

Panaracers Fire XC Pros are OK, but offer quite a lot of rolling resistance on the road. They are cheap and easy to get hold of.

I wore out a pair of Maxxis Highroller 2.1s a while back, they were OK, but didn't seem to last that long(?!) and I used to get punctures quite a lot, the Specialized The Captains have defo been the best for puncture resistance.

How about some Maxxis Monorails? They could be the best of both as they have a closely packed central line of knobbles.

bannedbiker

I used to use the Panaracer Fire XC pros, but found they didn't grip that well in the mid and had high rolling resistance! worst of both worlds!!

I'll have a look at the captains and the monorails.

monkeysm8

I like Conti veticals myself. They came on my Genesis io and have used them in gloopy mud (they clear well) dry dust (grip ace) for what they cost as well they are a steal.

biff55

jetpack?

gareth79

andy46 wrote:

your ride to work sounds great

was gonna say that id be late every day

RealMan

rubber queens..

Dazzza

Kenda excavator 2.10 back telonix 2.20 up front both dtc compound.

You won't be running out of grip anytime soon.

http://reviews.mtbr.com/blog/kenda-exca ... re-review/

ChrisMidsUK

biff55 wrote:

jetpack?

That's probably better than my suggestion of carrying 3 other sets of tyres around the neck, then changing along with the terrain along the way.

Since buying my own bike I've only bought tyres once so far, taking off the very adequate Captains to try something new out.

As an experiment, I went with a 2 tyre type combo and went skinny ( the tyres not my stomach sadly ) at the same time.

It's not perfect for everything, really wet sloppy mud can be a teensy bit twitchy and I'm feeling the roots more but I have to ride tarmac before getting offroad and it's fairly low rolling, great on pebbly stony surfaces and generally not bad all round, I certainly seem to have more speed than the Captains.

The combo is 1.85 Nobby Nic Evo rear and 1.95 Panaracer Trailraker front.

I'm happy with it anyway.

Northwind

2.1 nevegals or 2.3 highrollers, or if you're made of money nobby nics. There'll be others obviously but these all work. I think realistically you just have to sacrifice the road manners, there's no tyre that'll work well on all of these surfaces but being draggy on tarmac is better than being slidy on mud, draggy never makes you crash.

bannedbiker

Northwind wrote:

being draggy on tarmac is better than being slidy on mud, draggy never makes you crash.

Very, very true!

ride_whenever

I'd got for something like razer mx but run tubeless at quite a low pressure.

hoathy

Northwind wrote:

being draggy on tarmac is better than being slidy on mud, draggy never makes you crash.

Beg to differ. i quite like the odd slide and crash

bannedbiker

Hoathy wrote:

Northwind wrote:

being draggy on tarmac is better than being slidy on mud, draggy never makes you crash.

Beg to differ. i quite like the odd slide and crash

Out on a weekend ride thats a laugh, plus sympathy when you get home! But turning up to work covered in mud and blood aint quite the same...

richg1979

minion dhf's roll better than the high rollers and advantage.

gaz047

+1 for nevegals and xc pro's. they drag a bit on tarmac but are reasonably priced and last for ages (especially the xc pro's).

bannedbiker

Hoathy wrote:

I wore out a pair of Maxxis Highroller 2.1s a while back, they were OK, but didn't seem to last that long(?!) and I used to get punctures quite a lot, the Specialized The Captains have defo been the best for puncture resistance.

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Bought a pair of Specialized The Captains at the weekend. Had kinda got my mind set on either Maxxis Ignitors or Highrollers (probably Ignitor front, HR rear), but the Specialized sold themselves to me! tubless ready, dual compound, folding bead for around the same price as a std tube type, single compund, wire bead Maxxis...!

They seemed good this morning, they roll well on the road (although a noticeable difference to the Fast Traks), they grip pretty well on the grass, and i'll find out just how good they are in the mud on the way home tonight!

N0bodyOfTheGoat

Mrs NitrousOxide has Continental Kings (I think) on her Saracen Zena 2...

Are these reasonable for mixed on/off - road use (albeit very little of either so far after 9 months so far... But I plan to get her training on the turbo before spring comes :twisted: ), or should I buy a pair of different tyres?

hoathy

NitrousOxide wrote:

Mrs NitrousOxide has Continental Kings (I think)

speed kings, mountain kings, race kings? thats a lot of kings...

N0bodyOfTheGoat

oOPS... Mountain KIngs possibly!

Anyway, just ordered a batch of stuff from CRC (to make use of their 10% sale until midnight tonight), which included various Schwalbe tyres; 2x B54 pedals; bear trap pedals.

Should be at least a couple of all-rounders in the bunch.