Campag 11s chain tool?

on-yer-bike
on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
edited December 2009 in Workshop
I'm thinking of buying Record 11s grouppo. Will I also need the £100 chain tool to fit it?
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/wl.aspx?3&req=0-62Q2

    http://www.freeflowbikes.com/park-tool- ... 7921-p.asp

    I think they are the two alternatives. But you must use a 11spd specific tool to join the chain, otherwise you won't do the pin properly.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Oh And a 10spd SRAM Powerloc seem to work too.
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    Dérive-chaîne professionnel pour chaînes 11 vitesses
    - spécialement conçu pour les chaînes Campagnolo 11 vitesses nécessitant de mater le pion de rivetage
    - excellente préhension grâce à sa poignée aluminium
    - poinçon amovible en acier rapide traité thermiquement
  • ajb72
    ajb72 Posts: 1,178
    I have to admit this is putting me off the 11speed switch a little too. I own the 10spd campag chain tool, I take it that won't work now on the 11spd version?

    I hope KMC or someone comes up with an aftermarket version soon!
  • Wappygixer
    Wappygixer Posts: 1,396
    I cant understand this with 10/11 speed chain tools.
    All they do is press a rivet in place by simply pushing on it.
    I use Campag 10 speed chains and have not once used a Campag or compatible 10 speed link remover.I just use either my 15 year old Hexus or my Park chain brute and both do it perfectly well.
    I think most of it is marketing hype created to scare people into buying another tool.
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    helluva pallarva if you ask me, that's why I'm still running 10 speed record with an Sram link ....
  • ajb72
    ajb72 Posts: 1,178
    I fitted a Campagnolo Chorus 11 speed chain last night, and can confirm that you absolutely DO NOT need the specialist 11 speed Campg chain tool.

    I have the 10 speed chain tool (cheap ebay purchase) and it worked absolutely perfectly.

    Once you have fitted the new pin and broken off the guide pin (as per the 10 speed) there is a tiny amount of material left protruding from the pin. This had me worried, but by turning the tool round and winding it in from the other side, it amazed me how soft this material was and it deformed into place with almost no effort at all, and certainly not enough to push the link pin back out the other way. I guess it must be lead? Anyway, It has left a very neat join and the link is moving perfectly.

    I am sad to say I think this is hype and marketing from Campag. I suspect that any chain tool would do the job, just as long as it is narrow enough to fit through the link.
  • scherrit
    scherrit Posts: 360
    If the manufacturer recommends peening the pin with a special tool, I think it's probably a really good idea to do what they tell you to.

    People do occasionally get away with bad maintenance practice like breaking and re-joining 9 and 10 speed chains with the same pin. That may prove that manufacturers are a little conservative, who knows- they don't want you to break your face when the chain lets go, and re-joining chains almost certainly increases the likelihood of a broken chain.

    It is, however, your ass (and face, etc ) on the line. I have broken a chain only once when riding and that really, really scared the cr@p out of me. I think it's worth keeping your machine 100% maintained to mnfr's recommendations so that you don't have the slightest doubt about it- having doubt like that would really slow me down on the bike, hold me back from giving 100% in training efforts or races.
    YMMV,
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