Bars

sniper68
sniper68 Posts: 2,910
edited December 2009 in Road buying advice
I don't often post here i'm usually on the MTB section but here goes.I'm wanting to get rid of the drop bars on my roadbike(Focus Variado) and in an ideal world would like flat bars with bar-ends but don't want to go to the expense of new bars AND brake levers/shifters etc.Would THESE or something similar be a compromise and would i get away with using my 105 STis?

Any info advice would be much appreciated.

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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    What's wrong with drops?
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  • What's wrong with drops?
    +1 The base bars just lose you places to put your hands and will put your levers in a real odd place.
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Most TT / bullhorn bars aren't really suited to integrated shifters - the cable runs can be really akward and the limited hand positions are tiring after a while. You could try fitting a shallower drop road bar like an FSA Compact to shorten the reach and the drop, but still give you the option of multiple hand positions.
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  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    I can't get on with drops.The bike just doesn't feel planted.I can't ride in the drop position so tend to ride with my hands on the levers.This can be a bit shaky when going fast downhill.I might give the TT bars a try but i think i'll go down the flatbars/bar-end route,bite the bullet and buy new shifters/levers.
    redddraggon wrote:
    What's wrong with drops?

    +1 The base bars just lose you places to put your hands and will put your levers in a real odd place.

    I only ride the bike as a fitness aid/for fun so i'm not worried about losing places.[/quote]
  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    This might be of some interest to you.

    http://www.ridefixedgear.com/howto/conv ... -bullhorns
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    Garry H wrote:
    This might be of some interest to you.

    http://www.ridefixedgear.com/howto/conv ... -bullhorns
    That' a good idea!Cheers mate 8)
  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    As someone else has already mentioned, the only issue you might have is how to route the cables. but if you don't intend yo use the bars anyway, it's probably worth a go.
  • desweller
    desweller Posts: 5,175
    ibbo68 wrote:
    I can't get on with drops.The bike just doesn't feel planted.I can't ride in the drop position so tend to ride with my hands on the levers.This can be a bit shaky when going fast downhill.I might give the TT bars a try but i think i'll go down the flatbars/bar-end route,bite the bullet and buy new shifters/levers.

    I know it's not the advice you want, but this sounds like more of a setup issue than a problem with drops per se. I had something similar on my road bike (the first drop bar bike I've had). On the first iteration of the setup it felt really twitchy, and I was terrified of 25mph descents - I always felt like I would go over the bars under braking. I lowered the saddle a bit (well, quite a lot actually), moved it forward, got a shorter stem and rotated the bars towards me a bit (the frame is on the big side for me). Now it feels glued to the road, even at 50mph.

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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    You just need to get used to it. Look at the pros - they use drops no bother. You're used to the flat bars so it does feel a bit weird - but if there was a problem with using drops - why do so many people round the world not have a problem ?

    Hang in there I reckon.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    Most people ride on the hoods most of the time. Just because the drops are there doesn't mean you have to use them.
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  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    the 'popular' argument has some merit but plenty of things are popular but have issues with them - stabilisers on kids bikes, Cliff Richard records, smoking fags...

    Most people use drops because that's what road bikes come with. Or at least they did up until recently, you are now seeing much more flat-barred bikes being marketed and sold. Using drops may suit some people, but they're are others where they may not. 'Getting used' to them is one approach and it often works. People can get used to a lot of things.

    The simple truth is that this is just ergonomics. Certain bars have pros and cons and the user can decide which one they prefer overall. Drops have pros but they also have cons, as do flat bars. My advice is to experiment and make your own mind up.
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  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    DesWeller wrote:
    I know it's not the advice you want, but this sounds like more of a setup issue than a problem with drops per se. I had something similar on my road bike (the first drop bar bike I've had). On the first iteration of the setup it felt really twitchy, and I was terrified of 25mph descents - I always felt like I would go over the bars under braking. I lowered the saddle a bit (well, quite a lot actually), moved it forward, got a shorter stem and rotated the bars towards me a bit (the frame is on the big side for me). Now it feels glued to the road, even at 50mph.

    Des

    I've been using them for over 2 years,the bike is the right size and the set up is good,it's not really a comfort issue....i just can't get on with them.I want to be able to go fast and feel safe,drops just don't inspire confidence.I like to have 1 finger covering the brakes when i'm trapping along and with drops i feel insecure.Its probably the MTBer syndrome.I think i'll try cutting them down to bullbars.
    Thanks for all your help/advice 8)
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    here's my latest build with some non-drops. I get quite a bit of flak for them but I prefer this setup so it's not a problem. I find it more comfortable, and faster downhill. And wheelies are easier... The bars are 47cm wide, so very similar to a drop bar width.

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  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    I think thats the route i'll go down if i don't like the feel of bullbars.
    What levers/shifters are you running?
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    Paul Canti Levers, which are quite expensive. DiaCompe SS7 are much cheaper and do the pretty much the same job. You can't use V-brake levers though, as they pull too much cable for dual pivots.

    SLR440 for the left shifter

    SLR770 for the right (10spd)

    [the SLR770 left shifter isn't as good as the cheaper 440]

    To run a 47cm bar you need a shimmed bar rather than a standard bulge bar, in order to have enough space to slide the shifter brackets on far enough.
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