when is a sport not a sport ?
northernneil
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I suggest it is if you do not have to change your shoes to participate. Then it is merely a pastime.
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If marks are awarded... Surely the only point of a sport is to objectively decide who is the best competitor present. Thus synchronised swimming, diving, figure skating, ball room dancing etc etc can sod off."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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If you can't clearly tell who has won.Just Keep Pedalling0
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any sport which requires you to wear long trousers and a jumper while standing around all day, in between having breaks for 'lunch' and 'tea'.......unless of course it's raining, in which case you don't play it at all.....0
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Ands wrote:When you're allowed to drink pints between turns - that is not a sport.
I can't think of any sport that explicitly forbids this..."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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northernneil wrote:I suggest it is if you do not have to change your shoes to participate. Then it is merely a pastime.
Does that mean putting another pair of shoes on, or does merely removing shoes suffice?
Because if you need to be wearing shoes, then swimming and other water sports would become pastimes0 -
Being from the West country, it seems that a sport needs to have something dead at the end of it.
I guess the one's who are still alive have won, and they often change into wellies.0 -
swimming - yes is a sport
diving - hmmmm
synchonised swimming - err no
all started cos alan brazil was banging on about phil taylor being one of the greatest sportsmen on the planet0 -
:shock:TheDrunkMonk wrote:Being from the West country, it seems that a sport needs to have something dead at the end of it.
I guess the one's who are still alive have won, and they often change into wellies.0 -
If said activities involve in any way hitting, kicking, batting or thwacking a ball around a defined area then these are clearly not sports. These are called games.
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TheDrunkMonk wrote:Being from the West country, it seems that a sport needs to have something dead at the end of it.
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For the rest of the country, just being dead tired qualifies.0 -
Ever been hit in the face by a hard object thrown at you at 90mph? Or attempted to catch said object when it's coming at you out of the sun from 50m up? Or raced it over a 22 yard sprint, wearing awkward padding, and dived full length onto hard ground to beat it? Or stood there on your own, racking your brain trying to work out which way it will go next, knowing that it's the difference between victory and defeat?softlad wrote:any sport which requires you to wear long trousers and a jumper while standing around all day, in between having breaks for 'lunch' and 'tea'.......unless of course it's raining, in which case you don't play it at all.....
While it's true that cricket takes a ridiculous length of time, and is much too subtle for the simple-minded or easily bored to appreciate, I don't think you can deny it's a sport.0 -
If it can be played in a pub and doesn't require a high level of physical fitness to win at the highest level.0
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bompington wrote:
Ever been hit in the face by a hard object thrown at you at 90mph? Or attempted to catch said object when it's coming at you out of the sun from 50m up? Or raced it over a 22 yard sprint, wearing awkward padding, and dived full length onto hard ground to beat it? Or stood there on your own, racking your brain trying to work out which way it will go next, knowing that it's the difference between victory and defeat?softlad wrote:any sport which requires you to wear long trousers and a jumper while standing around all day, in between having breaks for 'lunch' and 'tea'.......unless of course it's raining, in which case you don't play it at all.....
While it's true that cricket takes a ridiculous length of time, and is much too subtle for the simple-minded or easily bored to appreciate, I don't think you can deny it's a sport.
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northernneil wrote:swimming - yes is a sport
diving - hmmmm
synchonised swimming - err no
all started cos alan brazil was banging on about phil taylor being one of the greatest sportsmen on the planet
Well have you won 14 world titles at anything?
As Sid Waddell once said "At the age of 32 Alexander of Macedon looked around and wept salt tears that there were no worlds left to conquer... Eric Bristow is 29.""In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I don't see why something not being a sport lessens the achievement of being the best in the world at it. Of course the problem with darts now is that it has split into 2 world champs so you never know who is actually the best!0
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Surely a sport is something which requires a combination of athleticicism and skill - with each sport requires different degrees of both.
I'd say being able to consistently throw darts at a ridiculously small target is athleticism, in terms of arm/posture control, and definitely is skillful.
For me, sport becomes tricky when animals get involved - i.e. horse racing etc.Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.0 -
Pross wrote:I don't see why something not being a sport lessens the achievement of being the best in the world at it. Of course the problem with darts now is that it has split into 2 world champs so you never know who is actually the best!
Hint: It's Phil Taylor. I don't reckon any of the BDC guys are even in the top 5."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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northernneil wrote:swimming - yes is a sport
diving - hmmmm
synchonised swimming - err no
all started cos alan brazil was banging on about phil taylor being one of the greatest sportsmen on the planet
I am not too keen on synchronised swimming but saying its not a sport is daft. It has got an unfair points score but it requires tons of skill and physical fitness.
For me anything that doesn’t involve any significant physical exercise is not a sport – pool and darts are fine examples.x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
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Surely the physical efforts of pool and darts are not so far removed from golf? i.e. tests of skill over strength.0
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As Sid Waddell once said "At the age of 32 Alexander of Macedon looked around and wept salt tears that there were no worlds left to conquer... Eric Bristow is 29."
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SPORT: Competitive.
Has Rules.
There is a Winner/Loser.
LEISURE: A concept of time, when you're not working. Unpaid activity.
RECREATION: To "re-create" yourself, physically or mentally.0 -
jedster wrote:As Sid Waddell once said "At the age of 32 Alexander of Macedon looked around and wept salt tears that there were no worlds left to conquer... Eric Bristow is 29."
That is just....awesome
It's my favourite ever piece of sports commentary. And the only time, I believe, that Waddell has ever used his degree (in classics, from Cambridge!)"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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simple_salmon wrote:Surely the physical efforts of pool and darts are not so far removed from golf? i.e. tests of skill over strength.
You ever spent 4 hours in the blazing sun walking over 4 miles (by time you look for your ball) lugging a big heavy bag on your shoulders? Agree if it involves the use of a buggy or trolley though 0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:Pross wrote:I don't see why something not being a sport lessens the achievement of being the best in the world at it. Of course the problem with darts now is that it has split into 2 world champs so you never know who is actually the best!
Hint: It's Phil Taylor. I don't reckon any of the BDC guys are even in the top 5.
That's probably true. 3 people standout though. The only consistant performers in darts are James Wade, Barney and The Power, with the Power being so far ahead of the next best it's incredible.
PDC/BDO were all the The Grand Slam of Darts.... who was in the Final - Barney and The Power, Barney only managed to get 1/4 of the legs Phil got.... The Power is up there, possibly dare I say the best, sportsman of all time with more natural talent that Ali, Pele, Woods... Only matched in comparative stats of the great Don Bradman, where the figures show that they are both significantly better than all that have come before or after.0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:Pross wrote:I don't see why something not being a sport lessens the achievement of being the best in the world at it. Of course the problem with darts now is that it has split into 2 world champs so you never know who is actually the best!
Hint: It's Phil Taylor. I don't reckon any of the BDC guys are even in the top 5.
That's probably true. 3 people standout though. The only consistant performers in darts are James Wade, Barney and The Power, with the Power being so far ahead of the next best it's incredible.
PDC/BDO were all the The Grand Slam of Darts.... who was in the Final - Barney and The Power, Barney only managed to get 1/4 of the legs Phil got.... The Power is up there, possibly dare I say the best, sportsman of all time with more natural talent that Ali, Pele, Woods... Only matched in comparative stats of the great Don Bradman, where the figures show that they are both significantly better than all that have come before or after.0 -
Pross wrote:simple_salmon wrote:Surely the physical efforts of pool and darts are not so far removed from golf? i.e. tests of skill over strength.
You ever spent 4 hours in the blazing sun walking over 4 miles (by time you look for your ball) lugging a big heavy bag on your shoulders? Agree if it involves the use of a buggy or trolley though
I can't understand this golf lark, whenever I've played O make sure I have my monies worth by having to hit the ball about 110 times a round. Whilst my serious golfing pals were quite hapy to only hit the ball about 75-80 times. Mugs or what? Tail end Charlie
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75-80 times - you play with some GOOD golfers
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