'I Pay Road Tax' Jersey.....

MattC59

I assume as this is on the home page, most of you have seen this ?

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/twitter-inspires-i-pay-road-tax-cycling-jersey-24023

So what do you think ? I think that I want one, but it looks like it's only going to be available in club order quantities for the time being. But here's my question; Do you think it'll be at all antagonistic to the Imprezza and white van brigade ?

Any Imprezza or white van drivers on here, that generalisation doesn't include you

Cheers......... Matt

ride_whenever

i wouldn't wear one, because it's too high brow for your average WVM etc.

I would wear one saying: How's the congestion?

Wooliferkins

The antagonistic folks are there already. I say go for it I think I will.

cee

surely all they will say is....that is not a valid tax disc?

I quite like it.....but I reckon its only cyclists that will appreciate it.

Percy Vera

Do you have to buy one every year?

If you don't motorists will then say it's out of date!!

will3

Lame

skyd0g

Nice thought, but...
...as a cyclist, you don't pay road tax. So I think it's more likely to antagonise the WVM into the panto argument of "Oh no you don't".

...possibly better to have a "I am a vehicle and have a right to be on the road" (doesn't scan so well, admittedly).

ride_whenever

is there any reason you couldn't actually get a VED disc for your bike?

iainf72

skyd0g wrote:

Nice thought, but...

No one pays road tax. That's kind of the point.

You pay tax, you contribute towards the roads.

schlepcycling

Rather than concentrating on the 'I pay road tax on the car or cars I own' it should point out that a bicycle would be a zero emission vehiclefor VED purposes so even if we paid it would be £0.

will3

Do you think anyone will

a) read it

b) care

personally I'd rather they were watching the road.

Pross

iainf72 wrote:

skyd0g wrote:

Nice thought, but...

No one pays road tax. That's kind of the point.

You pay tax, you contribute towards the roads.

+ 1 What he said!

skyd0g

iainf72 wrote:

skyd0g wrote:

Nice thought, but...

No one pays road tax. That's kind of the point.

You pay tax, you contribute towards the roads.

...see, even you're being pedantic. VED, (commonly known as road tax or car tax) okay? Sheeesh. :roll:

GiantMike

The American "Share the Road" seems a better approach. Education is the key.

That, and a smack in the eye for the idiot that knocks you off. Another form of education I guess.

Wooliferkins

ride_whenever wrote:

is there any reason you couldn't actually get a VED disc for your bike?

You don't need one!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is the license you need to use a MOTORISED vehicle on the public highway. Road tax was abolished in 1936

skyd0g

There is also the problem that the average WVM may think you ride for Team DVLA and so make an extra effort to mow you down. :?

beverick

Yawn.......

cedargreen

No-one pays road tax, it doesn't exist. Motor vehicles pay Vehicle Excise Duty. Most roads are maintained by councils (funded by council tax and central government), motorways and some trunk roads are built and maintained by the highways agency (funded by central government) Same applies to things like road signs, traffic lights, gritting etc. Policing the roads, such as it is- also funded by central government. Contrary to most motorists assumptions, the real cost of building, maintaining and policing the roads far exceeds any tax revenue from motorists. If you factor in 'external costs' like lives lost, the road system is very uneconomic. 3,000+ people killed every year at £1m each is over £3bn.
In a sane world, alternatives like walking, cycling or going by train would be made more attractive/ cheaper, but for this to happen requires a sea change in government thinking. Jonathon Porrit, who resigned as 'green' advisor to the government reckoned the Department for Transport was the worst government department of all- it's hard to imagine just how bad it must be to earn that title. Or quite easy to imagine if you're a cyclist, pedestrian or rail passenger. The looming oil crisis will expose Britain's failed transport 'policy' even more- over-reliance on road transport, airport expansion, lack of railway electrification mean rising oil prices will hit the UK transport system harder than most.

rant over... I feel better now.

Monty Dog

I'd get a jersey printed with my tax return printed on it - just to prove to the average WVM that I probably pay more tax than he earns and therefore have made a greater contribution to the upkeep of the highway than he has!

Anonymous

Will the jersey be stylish and have matching gloves, armwarmers etc ?

No point otherwise, gotta have some style over substance.

iainf72

skyd0g wrote:

...see, even you're being pedantic. VED, (commonly known as road tax or car tax) okay? Sheeesh. :roll:

But it's got nothing to do with the roads.

That's the point. A person who is paid highly, pays more tax but doesn't run a car probably contributes more to the roads that motorists.

That's the issue is people think they're making some magic contribution to the roads which they're just not. Their VED might be used on the roads, might be used for a hospital, might be used for a ridiculous war.

Nuggs

Monty Dog wrote:

I am considerably richer than yew

skyd0g

iainf72 wrote:

skyd0g wrote:

...see, even you're being pedantic. VED, (commonly known as road tax or car tax) okay? Sheeesh. :roll:

But it's got nothing to do with the roads.

That's the point. A person who is paid highly, pays more tax but doesn't run a car probably contributes more to the roads that motorists.

That's the issue is people think they're making some magic contribution to the roads which they're just not. Their VED might be used on the roads, might be used for a hospital, might be used for a ridiculous war.

Agreed. However 99% of people will call the VED disc in their car, their "tax disc" and as the jersey is a "I pay road tax" jersey, with a picture of a VED disc, it will confuse the average motorist. Not to mention the dischord it's caused here, between the very people it's supposed to assist.

Nice idea. But pants.

cjw

DVLA call it a TAX DISC too....

From their web site;

Welcome
to the DVLA's vehicle online services

You can apply for a new tax disc or, if you intend to take the vehicle off the road,
declare Statutory Off Road Notification, known as SORN, directly over the internet.

Pross

It is a tax disc though - a disc proving you have paid the excise duty (tax) for your vehicle. But it isn't road tax!

Le Commentateur

Well it's a "window tax" isn't it? An excuse for a general levy, just like ownership of a television or a house, and one of the myriad of revenue streams that fills the tax coffers of the government. "Road tax" is just a piece of colloqiual shorthand -- only autistic pedants debate the accuracy of the phrase.

singlespeedexplosif

I would wear one saying: How's the congestion?
Quite like that one. I note that various colleagues who voted against the Manchester congestion charge have recently started cycling to work and are moaning about the numbers of cars on the road. Doh...

rake

Anonymous

What about a jersey that says, back the fcuk up and give me some room ?

Or, "dont buy a car you cant drive peoperly you useless farking tool ?"

Just an observation .