Anyone know anything about QOROZ titanium bikes?

The Hedgehog
The Hedgehog Posts: 169
edited November 2009 in Road buying advice
I'd be interested to hear anything about Qoroz, especially if you have one of their bikes.

I'm interested in the Road Won frame in particular, but as they seem to be such a new company there don't seem to be any reviews of their bikes.
Thanks

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  • qoroz
    qoroz Posts: 5
    Hi The Hedgehog!


    You're completely right about the absence of reviews at the moment. We've been busy here the last 12 months getting our name about, refining the product line and supporting our Race Team.

    With that said, our bikes will be going off for review to the all the major cycle magazines and publications in the not too distant future, so keep your eyes peeled for that.

    In the meantime, if you or anyone else has any questions, feel free to post them up!


    Tom
    qoroz
    www.qoroz.co.uk
    www.twitter.com/qoroz
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    where are the frames manufactured..?
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    China - apart from the high end stuff, most ti comes from China or Russia.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • The Hedgehog
    The Hedgehog Posts: 169
    qoroz wrote:
    Hi The Hedgehog!


    You're completely right about the absence of reviews at the moment. We've been busy here the last 12 months getting our name about, refining the product line and supporting our Race Team.

    With that said, our bikes will be going off for review to the all the major cycle magazines and publications in the not too distant future, so keep your eyes peeled for that.

    In the meantime, if you or anyone else has any questions, feel free to post them up!


    Tom
    qoroz
    www.qoroz.co.uk
    www.twitter.com/qoroz

    Blimey! Didn't xpect to get the firm itself responding to my post!! Thanks very much for your response. I have actually emailed Qoroz about your products through your website, so look forward to your response.
    Thanks again.
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    They didn't have a clue about bikefitting when i spoke to them at the London cycle show in 2008. Spoke to one guy on their stand and questioned how their frames came out geometry wise. He looked me up and down and told me a Large would 'probably' fit.

    Customer service? There was none.

    Once again, we're seeing nothing new here. As Monty says, the frames just come from China and re-badged.
  • The Hedgehog
    The Hedgehog Posts: 169
    well it will be interesting to see the reviews, particularly if they put the Qoroz bikes hed-to-head with other well known Ti bikes
  • qoroz
    qoroz Posts: 5
    softlad wrote:
    where are the frames manufactured..?
    Our frames are manufactured in the Far East, with every last geometric detail and dimension designed in-house here in the UK. We have over 15 years experience in precision mechanical engineering and measurement, and have very carefully sourced the finest quality frames through our global network of employees of Aberlink, our sister company and producer of co-ordinate measurement machines.
    We believe strongly that titanium is the ultimate material for frame construction; we also believe, however, that the material alone cannot provide the perfect frame. This is why we work very hard to design the bike around sound engineering principles and ride quality, tailored to fit the rider.
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    You don't need to convince me - I'm already a Ti believer.. ;)

    So how would your approach be any different than, say, Van Nicholas...??
  • rjsmith
    rjsmith Posts: 1,924
    I've raced against some of the Qoroz lads (good bunch of guys) and seen some of the bikes up close. They look nice frames to me, but I haven't ridden one so can't really comment much on that. Mind you, I am a big fan of Ti.
  • brownleather
    brownleather Posts: 114
    qoroz wrote:
    We believe strongly that titanium is the ultimate material for frame construction

    Well from a pure materials engineering point of view I can't believe that is the case. With metals being isotropic, there's no way you can truly hone the frame design, whereas CF composites are anisotropic, and have more options in design.

    PS my main bike is Ti, so I'm not a Ti hater, but I'm also a materials engineer, so don't necessarily believe the marketing crap companies spout about materials.
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  • qoroz
    qoroz Posts: 5
    giant mancp wrote:
    They didn't have a clue about bikefitting when i spoke to them at the London cycle show in 2008. Spoke to one guy on their stand and questioned how their frames came out geometry wise. He looked me up and down and told me a Large would 'probably' fit.

    Customer service? There was none.

    Once again, we're seeing nothing new here. As Monty says, the frames just come from China and re-badged.

    I can understand your frustration at the slightly blasé answer to your question you received at the Cycle Show 2008. 2008 was our launch year, and we have worked very hard since to improve both the range of bikes and the company as a whole. We have since partnered with a local bike fitting specialist and can assure our customers that each and every custom-fitted bike is made to measure.
    Regarding your comment about simply re-badging overseas frames- please see reply to softlad.
  • The Hedgehog
    The Hedgehog Posts: 169
    Qoroz - looking on your website, you include Qoroz wheels in your builds. I tried to find these on the web - either reviews or availability from retailers/prices & can't find anything. Can you point me in the right direction please...or as with the bikes, there is little or no info' on them yet?
  • qoroz
    qoroz Posts: 5
    softlad wrote:
    You don't need to convince me - I'm already a Ti believer.. ;)

    So how would your approach be any different than, say, Van Nicholas...??

    We are a small, Cotswold-based company with a growing reputation and range of bikes.
    Our research is done through the race team in races and training, out on the road for weekend rides, as well as in our workshop and factory.
    We believe in listening to our team's feedback on our frame and components, and translating this into better bikes. With our precision engineering background we investigate, analyse and understand the properties of our frames and components, and are very proud of them.
    Customers can choose off-the-peg frames, custom-fitted bikes and from our range of components from titanium seatposts and stems to wheels (more info on these to be posted on our website soon, or contact us direct with any enquiries.)
  • qoroz
    qoroz Posts: 5
    The Hedgehog wrote:
    Qoroz - looking on your website, you include Qoroz wheels in your builds. I tried to find these on the web - either reviews or availability from retailers/prices & can't find anything. Can you point me in the right direction please...or as with the bikes, there is little or no info' on them yet?

    We sell these direct- more information to follow on our website soon.
    £599 including VAT, can be boxed and shipped via UPS courier within the UK for £10.
    Price includes skewers, rim tap, equinox brake blocks and tool.
  • The Hedgehog
    The Hedgehog Posts: 169
    qoroz wrote:
    The Hedgehog wrote:
    Qoroz - looking on your website, you include Qoroz wheels in your builds. I tried to find these on the web - either reviews or availability from retailers/prices & can't find anything. Can you point me in the right direction please...or as with the bikes, there is little or no info' on them yet?

    We sell these direct- more information to follow on our website soon.
    £599 including VAT, can be boxed and shipped via UPS courier within the UK for £10.
    Price includes skewers, rim tap, equinox brake blocks and tool.

    ok. can you point me in the right direction to find the specs on these wheels please? £599 seems a good price but that depends upon how they measure up against similar wheels.
    Thanks
  • darkside80
    darkside80 Posts: 39
    Do you have a showroom in Eastcombe? would love to have a look at some of your frames up close (plus Im based in Cheltenham, so not far!)
  • paulhipwood
    paulhipwood Posts: 58
    Hi All
    Went to the Qoroz factory today and looked at a Road Won. I phoned and spoke to Martin last week to arrange an apointment.

    I usually ride a Thorn Sports Tour (fitted with a Rohloff) and find it very comfortable. But have decided to treat myself to a new and lighter bike

    There was a Road Won bike and a bare frame, the bike was kitted out with Durace and the Qoroz wheels. Bike looked very smart.
    Tubes and fittings looked the business. Welds were neat with no evidence of porosity or undercutting.
    I have not had the chance to look at other titanium bikes so cannot make any comparisons.

    I was allowed to have a test ride, did about 8 miles through the country lanes. It was very windy and wet. The Road Won had 23mm tyres and I thought this was going to be different to the Thorn. I was riding a medium frame and think this is a tad too small, I am 1.82 tall.
    I was supried how the bike felt, I was expecting the ride to be harsher but when I hit the rough bits the bike soaked it all up.
    Found the wheels a bit scary, they are a very deep section and was caught a few times with the cross wind.

    I think this is the bike for me, now the problem is deciding what options to go for. Thinking of getting a frameset and buying the rest of the bits on the internet.

    Thought that Martin of Qoroz was very helpful and answered all the questions I asked him.

    regards paul
    weather forecasters are liars

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