Internal Headset

a.palmer
a.palmer Posts: 504
edited November 2009 in MTB workshop & tech
I'm looking at internal (or sometime referred to as semi-integrated i believe) headsets. Am I right in thinking they can be used on standard bikes headtubes, and just replace my standard threadless headset no worries? I can't really find a clear answer

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    no they can not.

    you need the same type as you have now.

    read about it all on Parktools.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • a.palmer
    a.palmer Posts: 504
    Okay thanks. Do you have any reccommendations for normal threadless headsets with a low stack height. Lower stack height the better really, that's why I was looking at internals
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    they are all about the same.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • Andy
    Andy Posts: 8,207
    Crank brothers
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    Andy wrote:
    Crank brothers

    good call a few mm less than average.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • a.palmer
    a.palmer Posts: 504
    Okay so i've got a set of forks that are only just off fitting, literally millimeters. So i'm thinking reducing the size of the headset cups will be a good way to squeeze those few mm's out and get a proper fit. How come a semi integrated one wont fit? It looks as if it just pushes into the headtube the same as a standard threadless
  • The head tubes flare out top and bottom for integrated headsets to accommodate the cups which are larger (still 1 1/8th steerer)

    If you rested one on top of a normal 1 1/8th headtube it would be mm's out.

    Can't be used on your frame. My marin has one, 5th pic down, look at the stack height and the headtube:
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12658877
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    A.Palmer wrote:
    Okay so i've got a set of forks that are only just off fitting, literally millimeters. So i'm thinking reducing the size of the headset cups will be a good way to squeeze those few mm's out and get a proper fit. How come a semi integrated one wont fit? It looks as if it just pushes into the headtube the same as a standard threadless

    have a think.

    could you press your current bearings that are bigger than your head tube into it?

    the bearings are the same size in the internal. Wont fit/wrong design etc..
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • a.palmer
    a.palmer Posts: 504
    Ah okay, I get you know. Cheers.