Procycling top 50 riders for 2009

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  • Moray Gub wrote:
    Seems to me like someone is probably

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    I agree.
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  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Moray Gub wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    maltiv wrote:
    I don't think you should care too much about this list, as it's clearly made by someone who has no clue whatsoever. Cancellara not in top 10, while Lance is, is indeed hilarious.[/quote

    coming 3rd in TDF off a 4 year break at 38 is not worth a mention? Forgot all the livestorng stuff and LA spin-i dislike most of what he says and does too..the exploitation of the health issue for a political career and so...BUT you should purely look at the athletic aspect...it's an impressive return and that is why is is there.....for those following in the 1980s...it's like seeing Hinault back at the TDF 1990 after retirnment in 1986 and racing Chiapucci and Indurain,....you woud all have said that was incredible had Hinault done it and come 3rd...why is LA's 3rd place so hilarious? Also, if you late 30s...it shows you can still race the young guys at whatever level you compete at...

    Dave you have to understand a lot of posters in here seem to be incapable of putting personal dislike of Lance to one side when passing comment on his results


    yes, i see what you mean...e.g. maltiv's reply on this page..kinda of ignored my post on the previous page and repeated his own point. He's likely not a TREK owner
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    Cav first?
    No Menchov, Cancellara or Gilbert in Top ten. Valverde 10? Lance top ten? :lol:

    I just have bought once the magazine since Peter is not the editor, and now seems that just englishspeakers are riding in the peloton.
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  • stfc1
    stfc1 Posts: 505
    victorponf wrote:
    Cav first?
    No Menchov, Cancellara or Gilbert in Top ten. Valverde 10? Lance top ten? :lol:

    I just have bought once the magazine since Peter is not the editor, and now seems that just englishspeakers are riding in the peloton.

    Gilbert was in the top 10.
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    1. MARK CAVENDISH (GB - Columbia HTC) - 3193
    2. Alberto Contador (Esp - Astana) - 3065
    3. Alejandro Valverde (Esp - Caisse d'Epargne) - 2723
    4. Fabian Cancellara (Sui - Saxo Bank) - 2175
    5. Philippe Gilbert (Bel - Silence-Lotto) - 2123
    6. Tom Boonen (Bel- Quick Step) - 1818
    7. Cadel Evans (Aus- Silence-Lotto) - 1665
    8. Denis Menchov (Rus- Rabobank) - 1630
    9. Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor- Columbia HTC) - 1570
    10. Andre Greipel (All- Columbia HTC) - 1540

    europsorts rankings based on top 10 placings and top 20 at gt i think it is th ebest so far

    I like this top 10 as well. Sure LA finishing on podium after a 3 year hiatus is amazing. Could you imagine Federer having three years off then making semis @ Wimbledon??

    But as good as is was, it was just 3 weeks of racing for the year. Sure Wiggins came 4th, doesn't make him a top-10 rider of 2009 (maybe in top 10 performances for the year).

    I probably wouldn't have Menchov or Greipel in my top 10, but not a bad list there.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Pelizotti out performed LA on paper?????

    the age thing.... does that count?

    begrudgingly yeah it probably does... but third? he wasn't the runner up..... he never went head to head with 1st and 2nd on gc

    eurosports list looks better from a "how often you saw them at the front of the race" POV
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Dave_1 wrote:

    coming 3rd in TDF off a 4 year break at 38 is not worth a mention? Forgot all the livestorng stuff and LA spin-i dislike most of what he says and does too..the exploitation of the health issue for a political career and so...BUT you should purely look at the athletic aspect...it's an impressive return and that is why is is there.....for those following in the 1980s...it's like seeing Hinault back at the TDF 1990 after retirnment in 1986 and racing Chiapucci and Indurain,....you woud all have said that was incredible had Hinault done it and come 3rd...why is LA's 3rd place so hilarious? Also, if you late 30s...it shows you can still race the young guys at whatever level you compete at...

    on second thoughts...begrudgingly

    if he had come second or even gone head to head with the either andy or contador?

    he was in a separate race for 3rd..... he never really raced either of those two...

    jaja in 1995 came fith at the tour but he actually took it to the big guys on gc.. several times... a better performance

    ok LA was never going to be allowed to go for a ride..... or was he?... if he went for broke on the first big mountain of the day and ended up off the podium it would have been a better performance IMO.. thou in hindsight his day over the Romme with wiggo was something for the future text books on cycle operational tactical art... do's and don'ts


    I'll will admit it was a canny ride but largely eased by the strategic advantage of having the winner on your team as well...

    ok a possible top ten mention

    For a tour that will be discussed for many a year I am willing to let him in... he was the big drama of the year...
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • I see that dodgy maths syndrome exists on this forum too.
    Can't wait too see Contador return to PT racing, at the 2010 Paris-Nice, after a year lay off, by the same logic. :?
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  • I like the picture on page 58. If you look closely it looks like the guy in the USPostal yellow jersey is giving Bertie the finger lol.

    Oh to be a fly on the wall of that team bus, too!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    SpaceJunk wrote:

    I like this top 10 as well. Sure LA finishing on podium after a 3 year hiatus is amazing. Could you imagine Federer having three years off then making semis @ Wimbledon??

    Kim Clijsters had two and a half years out, had a baby and then won the US Open.
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  • Manaru
    Manaru Posts: 18
    don't see why Farrar and greipel were above Lance as 3rd in the tour is an awsome result as it 12th in the giro
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Manaru wrote:
    don't see why Farrar and greipel were above Lance as 3rd in the tour is an awsome result as it 12th in the giro

    Possibly because they actual won some races this year?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Not "some" races. A lot of races.