Average speeds

What sort of average speeds do you need on the hills to keep up with the slower riders in the Cycle clubs?
I live close to Peak District want to join a club but i dont want to be out of my depth.
My bike computer does not give average speeds over a single trip.
I know the question is tough to answer but there are a large variety of hills in the Peak for example i was on one the other day upto the suprise from Hathersage and could only manage 6-7 mph.
The flats and downhills are straightforward but obviously the hills sort the men from the boys.
Any POSITIVE advice VERY welcome.
Cheers
Nick
I live close to Peak District want to join a club but i dont want to be out of my depth.
My bike computer does not give average speeds over a single trip.
I know the question is tough to answer but there are a large variety of hills in the Peak for example i was on one the other day upto the suprise from Hathersage and could only manage 6-7 mph.
The flats and downhills are straightforward but obviously the hills sort the men from the boys.
Any POSITIVE advice VERY welcome.
Cheers
Nick
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so my advise would be join the club and get out with the slower riders who will advise you and bring you on.
hope my experience helps
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On hills steep enough, even protour riders will only be going 5mph. It depends on the gradient and length.
On the flats and downhills it's not straightforward at all. Power, weight, endurance, descending skills, all play a part. Some clubs sprint for the village signs, leaving the climbers behind.
If you can aim for 15mph average on a reasonably hilly course, then you'll be fine on the medium club rides. As others have said, go out with a club and find out. If you are too slow up the hills, don't worry, they will generally wait for you at the top.
I think when we first start out we expect too much. I basically kept to the flat land for the first months I had my bike and averaged about 20 mph on a clear route. When I started going to the hills and could only manage 5-10 mph on some of the small hills, it was quite a change and I was thinking I'm so awful. But then I realised it probably isn't so bad considering the hills were 10% and peaked at 15% and some about 0.5 mile in length. I manage to keep an average of about 17.5-18 mph, so I guess it isn't so bad afterall. Just extremely hard to gauge how you are when you haven't had any experience in the hills, and experience of almost going at walking distance.
So I guess 5-6 mph is probably what a lot of us new riders do on the steeper hills.
Plus, you'll find the effort needed to maintain higher speeds on flat is much reduced when youre in a group, leaving you with more juice in the tank to get up the hills.
On my first ride out I was gently pushed over the top of the first small hill we came to. Now, after only a couple of months, I'm going up it at 13mph. I still drop to 4mph on some hills after we've been going for 30+ miles, but i'm not going to compare myself unfavourably to the guys that have been doing it for 10 years when i've only been at it for a few months, and they don't think any less of me. Quite the opposite, they appreciate the effort it takes to get up a hill when you are struggling (and they appreciate the rest they get waiting for you at the top
Ive been a member of 2 clubs, and on the medium rides , they wait at the top of big climbs.
Riding with a club will improve your cycling no end - so go for it - if the worse happens and you get dropped , so what ? - it really isn't a big deal.
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My climbing plan is always to try and save 50% of my energy for the final 25% of each hill. I try to get my breathing steady before I hit the hill and get into a comfortable gear and riding position early.
You'll soon find a group you can stay with and improve your technique and pace!!
Best of luck.
Specialized Rockhopper
Will join a club looking forward to this.
Cheers
Nick
Not sure what Derby Mercury Sunday runs are like these days but there used to be one that catered for everyone, including youngsters that needed pushing home at times. If you live near the Derby side of the Peak then you'll be welcom at the club night on Tuesdays from about 8pm (Darley Abbey church hall) My wife is the treasurer/membership secretary. She'll be happy to see you (especially if you're young and fit
Check the web site http://www.derbymercury.org.uk/ The agm is a few weeks so make sure you miss that one as it won't be an ideal evening to meet people.
Geoff
With a lot of climbs there is a descent that follows which will allow you to ride faster than your average and partially cancel out the slow speed up the hill...therefore keeping your average up...
Depends on the roads, the lanes around here are so twisty that more than 20 mph on the downhills is blody terrifying (from a vehicles apearing round bends POV) so you don't get as much back as you do on nice straight roads.
Couldn't agree more, I love going places I don't know and just exploring my way around, you will eventually find where you need to go. If you have toslow down then so be it.. real freedom.
It was a lovely morning today and we rode out to Hathersage and back up the hill to Fox House. I kept half an eye on the computer and we climbed at 7/8 mph for most of it. A bit slower on the steeper sections and a lot faster past Surprise View car park. Mind you a lot of single bikes passed us and we passed a couple of other tandems.
We only did 55 miles but I'm knackered for some reason. Perhaps it was the cold. I really didn't think we'd make it up the hill in the village to get home. My dear wife and stoker when I told her what a struggle I'd found it, had the cheek to comment that if she'd realised she'd have pushed harder :?
'twas a lovely ride though.
Geoff
She quite categorically isn't taking you for a ride
Yes that's why I said I end up from 5-11mph on >10% gradients, but this evens out with the downhills to bring my average to 15.5-17.5. I always seem to be slower overall on a hilly ride than flat, despite the downhills! I definitely prefer hilly rides though - more interesting.