Shimano brake pads

rhyko7

has anyone else found that the pads that come standard on Shimano brakes have the stopping power and friction bite of a well oiled bowl of jelly?

its twice now, 1stly on shimano slx brake that i bought new, now on a 2nd hand deore brake which wont even lock up :twisted:
thank god for bargain superstar sintered pads!

Airienteer

Personally I found the original Shimano pads were better than the Superstar ones I have now.

pdid

Airienteer wrote:

Personally I found the original Shimano pads were better than the Superstar ones I have now.

+1 Think my XT`s came with sintered anyway, in fact i`m still using the 1st set of pads 10 months down the line.

rhyko7

oh, guess its just me then

the pads on the shimano brakes i have had are made from fibres, like the old skool fibrax brake pads on canti's, the SLX one came good after it bedded in but when i changed to sintered superstar it was much better. i guess there maybe sumin wrong with this 2nd hand brake i bought-there is just no bite, im sure its just down to no grip between pad and disc cos lever feels normal when operated.ive cleaned the hell outa the disc-i couldnt find anything to clean it with today and ended up using de-icer LMAO worth a try i thought. :roll:

x-isle

They should be even better, however, they dissolve in the wet.......quickly.....!

Alex

Shimano resin pads need to be thrown in the direction known as away.
Replace with Shimano metal or Goodridge Sintered.

This is the UK. It is not the place for organic/resin pad compounds.

wordnumb

EBC sintered. Job dun.

nicklouse

rhyko7 wrote:

. i guess there maybe sumin wrong with this 2nd hand brake i bought

were they shimano pads?

had the original user messed them up?

:roll:

x-isle

Alex wrote:

Shimano resin pads need to be thrown in the direction known as away.
Replace with Shimano metal or Goodridge Sintered.

This is the UK. It is not the place for organic/resin pad compounds.

You are almost right, however, if you are on a rare dry spell (which we had in Sept), the resin ones would be great on long descents. If you drop a bead of sweat from your forehead accidentally onto the front brakes, then they'll dissolve like an soluble tablet.

Anonymous

Trouble with sintered pads on shimano brakes is that they cause more heat, and shimano insist on using mineral oil instead of DOT.
So, for general trail duties, you will probably be fine with sintered pads, but for any serious DH, where you generate considerable heat in your brakes, you might face some serious issues with sintered pads.

rhyko7

nicklouse wrote:

rhyko7 wrote:

. i guess there maybe sumin wrong with this 2nd hand brake i bought

were they shimano pads?

had the original user messed them up?

:roll:

not sure they are off ebay-i havent taken the pads out, its only my hack bike so will just leave them in, the brake works (not aswell as the cable disc brake it replaced) but its good enough for now.
ile have a look at the pads later tho, they may just need bedding in, ive only done 40 miles on them.




"Trouble with sintered pads on shimano brakes is that they cause more heat, and shimano insist on using mineral oil instead of DOT.
So, for general trail duties, you will probably be fine with sintered pads, but for any serious DH, where you generate considerable heat in your brakes, you might face some serious issues with sintered pads."

cheers did not know that-what about the Kevlar pads, do they dissapate heat better? i have shimano with sinterd on my main rig and do ride DH on that

The Spiderman

My Shimano XT brakes came with sintered and resin pads.The sintereds lasted about a year.
I recently stuck in the resin pads,asa stop gap.Stop OK but waering quickly.
If it weren`t for price I`d buy more Shimano metal/sintereds,but will be giving the SS sintereds a whirl

Anonymous

rhyko7 wrote:

cheers did not know that-what about the Kevlar pads, do they dissapate heat better? i have shimano with sinterd on my main rig and do ride DH on that

Where abouts, and how "DH" are you talking abotu here? It also depends on how heavy you are on the brakes, and the length of the descents.
When I ride down the big slate quarries or down a mountainside here, or even this annoying super steep, narrow road section where you have to check your speed the whole time, I can feel my brakes beginning to overheat, even on resin pads.
If I was to try that on sintered pads, there's a good chance I'd boil my brakes.

However, or something like Pleney, in Morzine, you can keep up a much higher speed, and aren't on the brakes so much, so.... it's hard to judge how much of a problem the sintered pads could be.

rhyko7

i probably dont do anything long enough to cause any problems, Machen is probably the longest track i ride and thats only a few minutes, cwmcarn is really short so cant imagine that causing a problem. im not one to hold the brakes on, i brake hard and release usual and maybe feather a little around corners
i should be ok with sintered, i may try out kevlar next time around tho when these pads have fullfilled their lives

x-isle

rhyko7 wrote:

i probably dont do anything long enough to cause any problems, Machen is probably the longest track i ride and thats only a few minutes, cwmcarn is really short so cant imagine that causing a problem. im not one to hold the brakes on, i brake hard and release usual and maybe feather a little around corners
i should be ok with sintered, i may try out kevlar next time around tho when these pads have fullfilled their lives

Which track in Machen are you talking about?

Are you a Machenite?

rhyko7

no idea what the track is called, the miggly moo club built it apparaently, its probably the best track and certainly longest ive ridden, it has some pretty shady drop and gaps that catch ya out. not sure if its back up running or not yet after forrestry commision fect it up

im no machenite, im just a south walian explorer

x-isle

Yeah, the migglies build most of the tracks in Machen. My bro-in-law is one of the members.

I'm from Bedwas, but live in the midlands.

The track you are talking about "apparently" (as I've never riden it), is pretty heavy on the brakes.

CycloRos

The standard Shimano resin pads are indeed a pile of crap they may as well be cardboard inserts they'd certainly last longer.

Throw em away and replace with sintered immediately!

x-isle

They ain't crap, just no good in the wet.