Race radio ban canned
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That went well. :oops:"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
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Remember the days when pro racers would attack on their own even if they were wearing Yellow and the course wasn't suited to loan breaks.?
Years ago Fignon and Hinault --- no radios in those days just natural talent and an instinct of when to attack. I can't help thinking that watching the TDF in those days (pre radios) were more interesting.
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I can't help thinking that watching the TDF in those days (pre radios) were more interesting.
thats because IT WAS !!0 -
POCKETROCKET42 wrote:Remember the days when pro racers would attack on their own even if they were wearing Yellow and the course wasn't suited to loan breaks.?
Years ago Fignon and Hinault --- no radios in those days just natural talent and an instinct of when to attack. I can't help thinking that watching the TDF in those days (pre radios) were more interesting.
http://www.huliq.com/8037/87327/cycling ... rn-panache
Ah the good old days, like when Hinault would go to the front and say "Monsieur Le Blaireau is tired today - there will be no racing".... ?Le Blaireau (1)0 -
And all those other days when he'd attack, and attack and attack and when riders would have to trust to their ability and their tactical nous and the chalkboard.
Rather watch that than the Milan fiasco in last year's Giro0 -
The Milan stage was indeed a fiasco - I'd rather watch the fianl mountain stage of the 2005 Giro, or the TdF stage to Luz Ardiden in 2003, or the stage to Les Deux Alpes in the 1998 TdF, or this year's Milan - San Remo, or the men's Worlds road race this year, etc.
The sport has changed immeasurably since the halcyon days of the early-to-mid 80s, and to ascribe the difference to radios is not correct, in my opinion - we still get exciting racing wih them, after all.
Perahps it's a product of the internet age where every day's racing is recorded and dissected, so the rubbish ones are there for all to see, whereas only the standout days from the early 80s are remembered.Le Blaireau (1)0 -
Oh, there's no doubt we often have rose tinted specs about the halcyon days - am curious as to what you ascribe the change in racing tactics if not radios, though0
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micron wrote:Oh, there's no doubt we often have rose tinted specs about the halcyon days - am curious as to what you ascribe the change in racing tactics if not radios, though
Blood doping and the more TV coverage have had more of an impact on race tactics than radio.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
It's impossible to prove but my money would be on radios having had far more effect than blood doping in terms of tactics. The main affect of doping is just increasing the speed of the peloton. Not sure about TV coverage - without radios the DS can see what's happening but there is going to be a delay relaying that to the riders so again my guess is that radios are the key.
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
Why repeatedly attack when you can make one proper attack stick?
See Gilbert in the Tour of Lombardy and Contador at various times in the Tour.
Racing's changed. To win at a GC it's all about calcualting your effort.
It's even getting that way in the classics, though not always thank god.Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.0 -
Yet another gutless decision by the men in charge! Radio's will be here forever now. If they didn't ban them now, then they never will.0
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Tom Butcher wrote:It's impossible to prove but my money would be on radios having had far more effect than blood doping in terms of tactics. The main affect of doping is just increasing the speed of the peloton. Not sure about TV coverage - without radios the DS can see what's happening but there is going to be a delay relaying that to the riders so again my guess is that radios are the key.
http://53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=58
I think he raises very interesting points. You don't see long breaks by GC guys through the mountains now, rather waiting to cane it for 30 minutes
Before radios came along, sprinters teams would pull back escapes at just the right distance to the end.
People go eyeballs out from the start now but there is a lot more TV. In the interview with Hampsten at Competitor Radio he says they used to ride piano until the telly coverage started and it would speed up.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
iainf72 wrote:Race radio's will not be banned until at least 2012
No reasons given.
http://www.sykling.no/files/%7B9B4FF621 ... 28B%7D.pdf
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-beg ... _headlinesinterview.cyclingfever.com0 -
would be cool if riders could get the info and data streamed to their GPS or bike computers also
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iainf72 wrote:Race radio's will not be banned until at least 2012
No reasons given.
If you're going to make a statement, back it up. Was always taught this at uni.0 -
sing_for_absolution wrote:iainf72 wrote:Race radio's will not be banned until at least 2012
No reasons given.
If you're going to make a statement, back it up. Was always taught this at uni.
I posted that at the end of October when the news first trickled out. Give a guy a breakFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
ahh the good old days - when everything was made of wood and held together with brass screws, when teenagers had respect for policemen, when there was no litter yadda yaddanorthernneil wrote:I can't help thinking that watching the TDF in those days (pre radios) were more interesting.
thats because IT WAS !!0
