5 teams not complying with PT financial requirements

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited October 2009 in Pro race
Astana
Caisse
Euskatel
Saxo
Sky
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The Spanish press are reporting that this means Bertie is free.

    Methinks they're jumping the gun slightly
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Percy Vera
    Percy Vera Posts: 1,103
    What's the reason regarding Sky? I thought they had loadsamoney!
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    No idea. They've also not got enough riders to be pro tour at this stage
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    It seems there is a UCI rule that allows teams out of a team if requirements not met by 20 October...

    Bertie could be a free man...
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • teagar
    teagar Posts: 2,100
    Saxo bank surprises me.


    Best overall team in the world as far as I'm concerned.

    Can't see why they'd have problems.
    Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    presumably this isn't a lack of funds but must be something else?
  • avoidingmyphd
    avoidingmyphd Posts: 1,154
    iainf72 wrote:
    The Spanish press are reporting that this means Bertie is free.

    Methinks they're jumping the gun slightly
    I thought so too. But cyclingnews is reporting a UCI rule as follows:

    "if, on 20 October of the year preceding a year of registration covered by the present contract, the UCI ProTeam has not submitted a registrationfile containing the essential documents," the rider may terminate the contract "without notice or liability for damages"

    and they too think Contador is entitled to leave now.

    EDIT This would explain why contador was expecting a decision this week too. I imagine he was aware of this rule...
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    avoidingmyphd wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    The Spanish press are reporting that this means Bertie is free.

    Methinks they're jumping the gun slightly
    I thought so too. But cyclingnews is reporting a UCI rule as follows:

    "if, on 20 October of the year preceding a year of registration covered by the present contract, the UCI ProTeam has not submitted a registrationfile containing the essential documents," the rider may terminate the contract "without notice or liability for damages"

    and they too think Contador is entitled to leave now.

    http://www.uciprotour.com/Modules/ENews ... LangId%3D1
    [In accordance with a new article added to the rules on 1 July 2009 (2.15.169b), the UCI is today publishing the list of teams that by 20 October 2009 had submitted an application file containing the following required documents:

    • budget
    • the sponsorship contracts duly signed with the main partners
    • the bank guarantee
    • at least 12 contracts with riders duly signed by the two parties
    • for new teams only, a description of the structure of the team together with a copy of the deed of incorporation of the paying agent.

    The teams are:

    • AG2R La Mondiale
    • Française des Jeux
    • Footon-Servetto
    • Garmin-Slipstream
    • Lampre Farnese Vini
    • Liquigas-Dommo
    • Quick-Step Cycling Team
    • Rabobank Cycling Team
    • RadioShack
    • Omega Pharma-Lotto
    • Team Columbia-HTC
    • Team Katusha
    • Team Milram

    This information is being published with a view to keeping all parties concerned informed about the progress of UCI ProTeam registration applications.

    The UCI and Ernst&Young will continue to evaluate all applications, including those of teams not in the above list, which have until 20 November to submit their completed applications. The UCI ProTour Council will make a final decision on UCI ProTeam registrations for the 2010 season after the official deadline of 20 November.

    it would be a bit weird if riders are free to leave before this final deadline?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    iainf72 wrote:
    It seems there is a UCI rule that allows teams out of a team if requirements not met by 20 October...

    Bertie could be a free man...

    ......to join a team that is on the same list?....
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Where's Sky on that list?
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    redddraggon wrote:
    Where's Sky on that list?

    See my initial posting - they've not complied.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    iainf72 wrote:
    redddraggon wrote:
    Where's Sky on that list?

    See my initial posting - they've not complied.

    Oh right I get it now, I thought it was was a list for all PT teams

    How have Radioshack managed to sort everything out but Sky haven't?
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    redddraggon wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    redddraggon wrote:
    Where's Sky on that list?

    See my initial posting - they've not complied.

    Oh right I get it now, I thought it was was a list for all PT teams

    How have Radioshack managed to sort everything out but Sky haven't?

    Oh....they had it all sorted months ago. :wink:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    I just read it as those teams have failed to file all the necessary paperwork. It could be one small thing, not necessarily a big deal, but in the case of Astana, it seemingly frees Bertie up to leave which is the real news here.

    That Sky failed to provide everything needed on time isn't a huge surprise as they are a new team and possibly lacking the knowledge that the other teams have in getting themselves sorted on time.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    iainf72 wrote:
    No idea. They've also not got enough riders to be pro tour at this stage


    Sky? They've signed more than 12 riders. That's all that it required.
  • Arkibal
    Arkibal Posts: 850
    Sorry for this stupid question, but Sky has been already awarded with a 4 year PT license, right? Sky has confirmed to sponsor the team for five years??

    RS has a two year sponsor deal, with a 2 year option, how come they were awarded a 4 year license without a solid sponsor for four years?

    Something stinks here, UCI and Pat McBend.
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    WOW. If this is true - fantastic!! Pretty funny that Caisse is on there since that's one of his likely destinations. The scenario I'd like to see?

    1. Contador to Garmin
    2. Wiggins to Sky

    Most interesting? The rule was added in July of this year! Was the UCI thinking ahead?
    The referenced rule 2.15.169b, added to UCI regulations in July of this year, requires that teams submit documents outlining their proposed budget for the coming year, signed sponsorship contracts, a bank guarantee and signed contracts with at least 12 riders.
  • richard wants a baum
    richard wants a baum Posts: 744
    Is it possible that the poaching of Astana rider by the Shack have left them with less that 12 signed riders there by inadvertly giving Contador his out. Ohh the irony if thats the case :shock:
    Take care of the luxuries and the necessites will take care of themselves.
  • sonny73
    sonny73 Posts: 2,203
    richard wants a baum wrote:
    Is it possible that the poaching of Astana rider by the Shack have left them with less that 12 signed riders there by inadvertly giving Contador his out. Ohh the irony if thats the case :shock:

    Classic if that were the case.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Sonny73 wrote:
    richard wants a baum wrote:
    Is it possible that the poaching of Astana rider by the Shack have left them with less that 12 signed riders there by inadvertly giving Contador his out. Ohh the irony if thats the case :shock:

    Classic if that were the case.

    That would be pretty funny! Lance wants Bruyneel yet he was tied - would the same rules apply to him as to the riders...ie he can move to the Shack?

    DDLF is a great rider and it would have been good to see him ride for Contador.

    Hopefully this can be finalised very soon and we can know where Contador is headed.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Arkibal wrote:
    Sorry for this stupid question, but Sky has been already awarded with a 4 year PT license, right? Sky has confirmed to sponsor the team for five years??

    RS has a two year sponsor deal, with a 2 year option, how come they were awarded a 4 year license without a solid sponsor for four years?

    Something stinks here, UCI and Pat McBend.
    Knock me down with a feather. I completely agree with Arki! :shock: :lol:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Is it so difficult to believe RS might have got their paperwork in order?

    Sky had all their original stuff done but haven't either provided all the documentation or whatever. Perhaps they don't have all the contracts inked etc?

    I don't think there is anything sinister at work.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • squired
    squired Posts: 1,153
    Here is what was said in September about Sky. Seems odd to me. If I was setting up a process to allow teams to join the Pro Tour I would be looking for them to meet all of the requirements that teams currently in the Pro Tour have to submit by 20 October. Having two submissions so close together for a new team is silly.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sky-awa ... ur-license
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Saxo Bank are all in order now.

    It looks like it's just paperwork.

    Unless Brailsford accepted a sponsorship offer from SkyTVSportsBacking@hotmail.com of course :wink:
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    iainf72 wrote:
    Saxo Bank are all in order now.

    It looks like it's just paperwork.

    Unless Brailsford accepted a sponsorship offer from SkyTVSportsBacking@hotmail.com of course :wink:

    Just in time. "The Ancient One" has just twittered that Andy S is interested in a place at his retirement home for old pros. :wink:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • st.raphael
    st.raphael Posts: 1
    other british have promised and failed to deliver :cry:

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