Carerra Banshee X headset?

mr_sceptical

Having looked @ the Park website, looked @ the FAQ and looked everywhere I can think of, I'm still confused.

Has anyone changed the headset on an 08 Banshee X (like this one... http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... fd28183a18 )

I THINK a Cane Creek IS2 will fit, but I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm what fits, or what did you replace it with? The spec says 'semi-integrated' but what does this mean in terms of buying a new one... ?

Cheers

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Wooliferkins

It means you need a semi integrated headset as opposed to integrated or a conventional. It is the dimensions that your headset drops into that are important ie diameter and the depth of the bearings. The Halfords spec says an FSA headset can you see any clues on what you can see?

mr_sceptical

Thanks;

The one that is fitted has a Token top cap, but the rest of it looks like it might be Cane Creek (was bought SH). I don't really want to take it out without having a new one to fit, and measuring it with it in looks like a PITA :-(

supersonic

Semi integrated is a poor name for a headset - they should use Zero Stack or internal cup.

Wooliferkins

Both integrated and semi integrated have internal cups and zero stack refers to the stack height if it isn't zero stack you cant call it that and integrated is zero stack by nature but doesn't describe the headset properly. Never let Americanisms get in the way of the right term that's how y29ers(700C) came about.

Token make CC compatible headsets nothing written on the shoulder?

supersonic

Integrated headsets have no cups at all - the bearing drops straight into a specially made headtube.

Zero Stack is a type of headset that uses shallow internal cups.

Wooliferkins

ie the cups are integrated into the headtube, semi integrated drop into a specilly reamed headtube but the bearings are part of the headset. A semi integrated can be zero stack ie no height above the headtube or have some stack height depending on the headset used. Diameters and bearing seat depths vary.

supersonic

Yes, the integrated headset can have no stack, but Zero Stack is a trade name of FSA and refers to a press fit internal cup headset (or low profile, Z series, and unfortunately named semi integrated).

Integrated headsets are sold without cups. Sometimes you may get a bearing ring retainer. Semi integrated are sold with cups.

There are some bearing and headtube differences in some of these as you say. However most (internal) are the 44mm standard on MTBS.

http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=68#zero

supersonic

However if it is an IS standard ie from Cane Creek, then it needs the 45x36, 41mm bearing. But that aint a semi integrated headset...

nicklouse

Wooliferkins wrote:

ie the cups are integrated into the headtube, semi integrated drop into a specilly reamed headtube but the bearings are part of the headset. A semi integrated can be zero stack ie no height above the headtube or have some stack height depending on the headset used. Diameters and bearing seat depths vary.

you have mixed things up there.

integrated no cups

Semi integrated, zero stack, internal have cups.

mr_sceptical

Well; I seem to have started quite a debate.

Thanks for the info (although I'm now probably more confused)

Am I to deduce no one will admit to owning a Banshee?

(It's actually not mine, honest)