Winter / Audax frame with a normal head tube length?

elevated

I'm struggling to find a winter frame with geometry similar to my PX SL Carbon, or BMC Pro Machine - that is a virtual top tube of around 550mm and a head tube of between 145mm and 155mm.

Based on top tube lengths, all the frames I've found either have incredibly short head tubes:
- Kinesis Racelight TK/2 - 115mm for a 544 tt
- Pro-Lite Inverno -128mm for a 550 tt
- Surosa Audax - 110mm for a 550 tt

Or stupidly tall:

- Tifosi CK7, 173mm for a 550 tt
- Condor Agio, 175mm for a 545 tt

The only one which seems sensible, is the Bentley Audax from www.fatbirds.co.uk, which is 157mm for a 553 tt.

Kinesis even inexplicably state "Both the ‘T2’ and ‘Tk2’ use longer headtubes" yet the geometry for the non-winter Racelight frames shows they have the longer tubes and the winter frames are shorter...

Does anyone know of any others worth a look? I'm looking for alu, £500 max for the F&F

Thanks!

redddraggon

You have to remember that forks with mudguard clearances will have longer dropout to crown lengths so you don't such a long headtube, to get a similar fit to a race frame.

elevated

Yes, but that'll only be the difference between short and long drop brakes - so 10mm max?