Obama awarded Nobel Peace Prize...

jos2thehua
jos2thehua Posts: 76
edited October 2009 in The bottom bracket
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  • Cressers
    Cressers Posts: 1,329
    Proof, if any were required, that the world is mad.

    Will the rescind it if he orders the bombing of Iran or North Korea?
  • DavidBelcher
    DavidBelcher Posts: 2,684
    A likeable enough bloke, but he's only been in the job 10 months and hasn't done all that much of note to warrant it as yet.

    David
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    He has got a cool name though. Also he sounds like Samuel L Jackson when he's angry apparently.

    Wonder Dubya didn't get it. :wink:
  • Cressers
    Cressers Posts: 1,329
    Two years ago most americans would've thought that anyone with the name of Obama was the leader of the Taliban.
  • DavidBelcher
    DavidBelcher Posts: 2,684
    dmclite wrote:
    Wonder Dubya didn't get it. :wink:

    Indeed, maybe he deserved it for all he's done for world peace recently....simply by the act of leaving office. :wink:

    David
    "It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal
  • Cressers
    Cressers Posts: 1,329
    Only the names change, the policies continue...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    DavidBelcher wrote:
    dmclite wrote:
    Wonder Dubya didn't get it. :wink:

    Indeed, maybe he deserved it for all he's done for world peace recently....simply by the act of leaving office. :wink:

    David

    wonder what he would have got if he'd left 3 years earlier.....Blue Peter badge? Crackerjack pencil ? A Blankety Blank chequebook and pen ?

    Answers on a laser guided bomb to the Chinese Embassy, the balkans.....ahhh maybe not. :wink:
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    Cressers wrote:
    Only the names change, the policies continue...

    Thank God he's dropped the Bush policy of winding up the Russians for no good reason.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to people who have engendered an atmosphere where peace can prosper, not necessarily to someone who has done something exceptional for 'Peace'. Knowing this you can understand why he may have been chosen.
    According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

    He has provided a stablising balance to the warmonger that preceeded him and has spoken out about many issues: Israel-Palestine, Nuclear Weapons, Afghanistan, Guantanamo, the US base in Eastern Europe and other things. Maybe he hasn't done so much concrete which is the base of surprise of people yet he certainly has had a calming influence on International Relations promoting a climate for discussion and resolution.

    Another aspect that may have been considered by the people awarding the prize is that now he is the holder, he has a responsibility to live up to it, so is somewhat tied - if he does 'un-peaceful' things then there will certainly be a media backlash.
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  • DavidBelcher
    DavidBelcher Posts: 2,684
    johnfinch wrote:
    Cressers wrote:
    Only the names change, the policies continue...

    Thank God he's dropped the Bush policy of winding up the Russians for no good reason.

    True, it's a huge relief that he knocked the highly contentious issue of the US missile defence system for Eastern Europe firmly on the head. If that had been built, goodness knows how many years it would have put East-West relations back by....

    David
    "It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal
  • Buckled_Rims
    Buckled_Rims Posts: 1,648
    Nobel peace prizes are a joke - all you need to do is talk, but provide no action. Just look at the previous winners and what they achieved for proof.

    Other Nobel prizes are strange as well. Most literature winners are "intellectuals" who rarely sell more then a few dozen books. Science winners tend to win 25 years after their discoveries.
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  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    DavidBelcher wrote:
    True, it's a huge relief that he knocked the highly contentious issue of the US missile defence system for Eastern Europe firmly on the head. If that had been built, goodness knows how many years it would have put East-West relations back by....

    David

    If it had been built, the result would have been that the Russians would have started looking at ways to get around it - suddenly the USA would have had a nuclear sword and shield, whereas the Russians would only have had a sword, so to speak.
  • DavidBelcher
    DavidBelcher Posts: 2,684
    Buckled_Rims wrote:
    Science winners tend to win 25 years after their discoveries.

    Indeed - this year's Physics one has been given to the guys who developed fibre-optic communications networks, the technology for which has been around for ages now!

    David
    "It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Why do they only ever make a deal about who won the Peace prize? I am still none the wiser as to who won best album or best haircut.
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    I think he got it for being rather than doing.

    Not sure that works for me.

    In any case, far too soon.

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  • fungus_the_muffin_man
    fungus_the_muffin_man Posts: 1,608
    If only Princess Di was still alive then we could have a truely deserving winner
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:
    If only Princess Di was still alive then we could have a truely deserving winner

    hehehe :wink:
  • Aggieboy
    Aggieboy Posts: 3,996
    frenchfighter wrote:
    The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to people who have engendered an atmosphere where peace can prosper, not necessarily to someone who has done something exceptional for 'Peace'. Knowing this you can understand why he may have been chosen.
    According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

    He has provided a stablising balance to the warmonger that preceeded him and has spoken out about many issues: Israel-Palestine, Nuclear Weapons, Afghanistan, Guantanamo, the US base in Eastern Europe and other things. Maybe he hasn't done so much concrete which is the base of surprise of people yet he certainly has had a calming influence on International Relations promoting a climate for discussion and resolution.

    Another aspect that may have been considered by the people awarding the prize is that now he is the holder, he has a responsibility to live up to it, so is somewhat tied - if he does 'un-peaceful' things then there will certainly be a media backlash.


    Bearing in mind the nominations for the award closed just 11 days after he became President, that arguement doesn't stick does it?
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  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    Did you hear his exceptance speech?

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  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Buckled_Rims wrote:
    Nobel peace prizes are a joke - all you need to do is talk, but provide no action. Just look at the previous winners and what they achieved for proof.

    Ultimately his talking has been pretty valuable. Historically, diplomatic situations (Palestine-Israel, Russia-USA) have got better when both sides engage in talks. Besides, cancelling Star Wars (not it's proper name, but who cares, it sounds cool) must count as an action and a good one at that.

    I genuinely think that if anyone can be a good front-man for a country that is loosing it's number one super power status to China and India, it's Obama.
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  • cycologist
    cycologist Posts: 721
    Having been in office for less than two weeks when his name was put forward, I understand that it was on the basis that he was not George Bush.
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  • cycologist
    cycologist Posts: 721
    Smokin Joe wrote:
    Did you hear his exceptance speech?

    Does this indicate that American presidents are not normally allowed to be included in nominations ?
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  • jos2thehua
    jos2thehua Posts: 76
    I honestly thought Beyonce should have won the award. :lol:
  • Aggieboy
    Aggieboy Posts: 3,996
    frenchfighter wrote:
    The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to people who have engendered an atmosphere where peace can prosper, not necessarily to someone who has done something exceptional for 'Peace'. Knowing this you can understand why he may have been chosen.
    According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."


    I've always wondered why Yasser Arafat was awarded it.
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    cycologist wrote:
    Having been in office for less than two weeks when his name was put forward, I understand that it was on the basis that he was not George Bush.

    Pretty good reason, really.
  • Firecrakka
    Firecrakka Posts: 81
    jos2thehua wrote:
    I honestly thought Beyonce should have won the award. :lol:

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Aggieboy wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to people who have engendered an atmosphere where peace can prosper, not necessarily to someone who has done something exceptional for 'Peace'. Knowing this you can understand why he may have been chosen.
    According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."


    I've always wondered why Yasser Arafat was awarded it.

    +1, Mr Arafat was very dodgy.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I wasn't aware of that Aggie. However I guess that when the nominations took place isn't important - when the descision was taken is what counts and that was only recently so the above would have been taken into consideration.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Spongebob squarepants would be a notable candidate. :D
  • DavidBelcher
    DavidBelcher Posts: 2,684
    Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:
    If only Princess Di was still alive then we could have a truely deserving winner

    Read this and the first two words that popped into my head were "Daily Express" for some reason....

    David
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