Which is easier to do a bunny hop with?
Jayng
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I've been wondering, which is actually easier to do a bunny hop with. A hard tail or a full-sus. Personally, I find that it is easier with a full sus, but I haven't had the chance to try a DJ bike. I've only managed to compare an XC Merida vs a Nomad, cause I'm one of those people who only find it comfortable to jump with their own bikes.
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easier to learn on HT but you'll get higher on a fs...
depends a lot on geometry though, short chainstays and wheelbase help a lot0 -
I have to disagree and say that hardtails are easier to hop. They give you a better feel for the hop and you can get more spring into the hop and get higher.
The rear shock absorbs too much of the natural spring energy from your legs so you just can't get anywhere near the same lift on the hop.0 -
Hardtail, or even better, rigid.
Suspension actually counteracts your hop. At least, it should do. Unless of course you purposefully set it up wrong, with loads of spring preload, and no rebound damping.0 -
ride_whenever wrote:easier to learn on HT but you'll get higher on a fs...
depends a lot on geometry though, short chainstays and wheelbase help a lot
Does this mean if I want a bigger hop, I should practise on a HT? I can already do a bunny hop, but it is kind of like both tyres leaving the ground at almost the exact same time. Not the proper front up high first then the rear follows. Can't get rid of this habit somehow.0 -
All the hop records have been done on HTs. Usually fully rigid.0
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HT or rigid (think of the trials riders Like MacAskill etc.) Loading and unloading the suspension seems to take half the effort you put into the hop in my experience. Also learning to hop as you describe (front up first) will be easier on a HT because the first part is similar to learning to manual.
MBUK have a vid on youtube here if it helps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkiJpTkm71YSanta Cruz Chameleon
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junglist_matty wrote:I have to disagree and say that hardtails are easier to hop. They give you a better feel for the hop and you can get more spring into the hop and get higher.
The rear shock absorbs too much of the natural spring energy from your legs so you just can't get anywhere near the same lift on the hop.
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Everything is far more immediate on a hardtail.0 -
I learnt on a HT but I've got highest on my FS. However that was with the rebound set at ridiculous levels!0
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Hardtail.
Fullsuspensons are a bit heavy at the rear so you can't lift the rear with the legs as much as you can on a hardtail. Plus as mentioned you have the suspension at the back too...0 -
I'd say Hardtail too. It's also the bike you should learn to bunny hop on, and jump on too.0
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Hard tail - they are lighter.0
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Xtreem wrote:Hardtail.
Fullsuspensons are a bit heavy at the rear so you can't lift the rear with the legs as much as you can on a hardtail. Plus as mentioned you have the suspension at the back too...hertswenip wrote:Hard tail - they are lighter.
Hardtails are not always lighter!!!!
My Dawg weighs in just under 28lbs
My Surge weighs in well over 30lbs
Yet I can get much higher on my surge than the Dawg... Technique is far more important than getting a lighter bike... If you can't get 30cm+ on a hardtail after some good practice then your doing something wrong.0 -
oh look, the old, ht are lighter sketch :roll:
My stumpy is lighter by a couple pounds compared to my ht.
I find it easier to bunny hop on a fs bike,0 -
the question is easiest
full sus with bouncy set up-its as easy as a pogo stick
trying bunny hoping a tendem bike-now thats a challenge!
Dont look at it-ride it! they are tools not f*cking ornaments
my riding:
http://www.youtube.com/user/rhyspect
Some of my Rides Data/maps:
http://www.trimbleoutdoors.com/Users/5273370 -
My rigid was a lot easier.
Train on a trade bike then everything becomes easy.
Now where's that "Get Out of Crash Free Card"0 -
A BMX Seriously, a short chainstay and compact dimensions are what you need to lift the back end up. Ona similar theme a Giant STP is looking attractive to me as a skill impovement bike. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
Mongoose Teocali
Giant STP0
Why are MTB economics; spend twice as much as you intended, but only half as much as you wish you could afford? :roll:0 -
a trials or jump bike, similar reason as the bmx but gears gives better control over height and length of jump
what is the tandem bunny hop record- height and length? anyone know?0 -
This is the highest bunnyhop record. 1.42m or 56". That's just nuts. :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXLXR2_1aYE
Don't know the longest.0 -
Xtreem wrote:This is the highest bunnyhop record. 1.42m or 56". That's just nuts. :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXLXR2_1aYE
Don't know the longest.
Depends how fast you're going
I find it easier on a HT, but not cause its lighter
I can bunnyhop high enough for trail stuff on my FS.0 -
I'd say HT, but I reckon there's not so much in it if you're comparing a normal sized HT to a normal size full sus. To get mega height you need a tiny bike. I ride a full sus more so it's easier on that. But I seem to remember before I had it, I got a bit more height on the HT.
I can jump higher/further on the full sus tho, no niggling worries about 'will it survive this one?'
[edit] just notice the question was "which is easier?", not "which is higher?". Maybe easier to learn on a full sus I think. From teaching people, it seems most full sus riders pick it up a bit easier than those on HTs0
