Second hand valuation help please?

JonEdwards

My other half has been looking vaguely for a road bike (her first proper one). A friend has offered her old bike (change of sponsor, so change of bike), but I think the pricing is a bit out of whack.

Spec is:-

Specialized S-works Tarmac frame& forks (2006, gerolsteiner colours, vgc)
Mavic Kysrium Elite wheels (mint)
Campag Centaur rear mech and brakes (secondhand, OK condition)
Campag Xenon shifters, cranks, f/mech, cassette etc (brand new)
Finishing kit is a mix of bits they had lying around. OK, but nothing exceptional (womens bars though)

SO... What do you think its worth? I know what they want, I know what *I* think its worth, but what do you guys reckon...?

Thanks!

Jon

dru

£400 ish?

gabriel959

I would have though somewhere in the region of £800-£900.

Monty Dog

£500 tops - and that's mainly for the frame and wheels - Xenon kit on a frame of this spec is distinctly low-rent.

JonEdwards

Thanks guys - you've pretty much confirmed my thoughts. They're asking a LOT more than the prices you've been suggesting.

The Xenon kit is definitely a "fill in the missing bits" effort - the bike used to run Dura-ace SRM cranks and (I think) Chorus shifters, but I think they've been moved onto other bikes. I'd seen the bike before all it's downgrades, but wasn't very impressed by the Xenon stuff at all when I saw it in it's "for sale" spec.

Pross

The current version of the frame is upward of £1500 and the wheels retail around £350 so I would have said a fair price would be around £700 - £800. Shame half the group set is such a low standard for a bike of this quality. There you go, 4 responses all different. I guess the only way of getting an accurate value is to see what they are selling elsewhere second hand or to work out what other similar aged bikes sell for as a percentage of the current models RRP :?

gabriel959

To be honest that Xenon kit is like if it wasn't there but I priced it this way:

Frame - £400-£500
Wheels - £150-£200
Groupset - £100
Finishing Kit - not much details but would have though at least £50

Monty Dog

You've overpriced the frame - if you have the right contacts, you can buy new ones, yes Specialized, for £400 and never pay more than half-price for used wheels.

gabriel959

Send me PM with contact details - as those frames retail for about £1500!!!

Pross

You've overpriced the frame - if you have the right contacts, you can buy new ones, yes Specialized, for £400 and never pay more than half-price for used wheels

Problem is not many of us have the right contacts though.

top_bhoy

gabriel959 wrote:

Send me PM with contact details - as those frames retail for about £1500!!!

Agreed its a nice frame but £1500.....the SL2 2009 frameset is around that figure or less. If you could still get one, a new 2006 standard frame would be a lot less.

I basically looked at the bike and priced it for frame and wheels only. The groupset is not viable for anything else other than a winter hack. I came to a figure around £600 max. It has been used, been raced and is probably at least 3 years old.

To the OP, what figure do they have in mind?

Monty Dog

But if I let you know, you'd all want one!

gabriel959

Monty Dog wrote:

But if I let you know, you'd all want one!

is that a problem? If they are selling it for £400 that means they are making a profit so I would have though it would be in their interest to sell me one. I am interested!