Pub Hack help!

The Northern Monkey

So here she is... the oldie
Took it for a spin round the cul-de-sac and its great! nice size and deserves to be build up as a cheap pub rocket!


Now then, I need help

Starters...
What headset combo is this? Can you get replacements?How does it come apart?


Seconds...
What BB is this? what tool to take it apart?



Thirds...
Can I put some decent V brakes on?


Fourths...
The drop outs look sorta horizontal... does this mean that making it SS will be easy?


Hoping to take it apart next week and get it sprayed up

nicklouse

parktools again has the answers.

threaded headset.

square taper BB.

yes V's fit (new levers will be needed)

and yes it will go SS easily.

The Northern Monkey

Yay, Yay, Yay, Yay and Yay!

Should be pretty sweet with a set of fast rolling slicks on there!

Kiblams

You may have some issues with that drop-out, my commuter has exactly the same dropout angle and I have also set mine up as a ghetto SS and every 2-odd weeks the axels slides in the dropouts. They are tricky to get chain tugs for too as most are designed to work with horizontal drop-outs where the axel goes in the back of the frame not the front.

The headset and cranks are very easy to pull apart, will need a crank removal tool obviously though.

Apart from the drop-out issue I am having a great time riding to work on my old Raleigh(even if it does have only one brake), enjoy riding it and relaxing without worrying about it being stolen

The Northern Monkey

hmm fair enough! if all else fails I'll stick the gears back on the back and use the front derraileur as a chain guide

I'm really surprised at how well the thing moves tbh!
The components are a bit rusty and crap, but the frame is spotless in places! I might even leave it as it is... the paintwork is pretty good tbh!

ride_whenever

the dropouts will be fine with decent track nuts, most lbs will have them, otherwise just about every ss bike with track fork ends would slip without tugs, which they dont.

nicklouse

bigbenj_08


ben you will not have any issues just tighten the nuts.

Just about every internal geared bike has the same drop outs and they are fine.

But there are chain tugs that you can use.

The Northern Monkey

Fiar enough, sounds good

Got pretty much everything I need to make it SS then

I was gonna look for a new set of cheap wheels, but the ones on there seem farly sound... should be fine for now.

You know the stem/steerer? How does that work?
kinda looks as though its all integrated together...

dave_hill

Undo the screw in the top of the stem.

Hit it with a hammer (not kidding!!)

Pull the stem out.

This is the traditional pre-aheadset type stem - it fits down the inside of the fork steerer and has an expander nut/wedge on the end to hold it in place. By loosening the screw and hitting it you unlock the expander.

That said, if it's a steel stem you may find that unless it was well-greased before it was assembled it may have rusted and be difficult to seperate. In which case liberal applications of Plus-Gas or neat diesel may be necessary.

The Big Cheese

Ben, I seriously suggest that you join retrobike, there is a great classified section on there, and you can get period correct parts for peanuts there, and they are a cool bunch of guys, check out my Cannondale in my sig (its a 1993 and MINT) cost me £350 in all, great bike,

Gong retro is tricky with all the old skool fittings etc, but it gewts easier though lol

supersonic

Keep an eye on the crank - that model was recalled as the arms had a habit of fracturing.

rhann

why buy all new components, look for second hand no point spending lots of money if its just for general use, be cheaper to buy an Apollo in halfords

ric7481

Fantastic stuff - this is pretty much exactly what I am looking to do with my old muddy fox...great to see a similar project.......how you getting on ??

Have decided to keep rear mech, 7 speed - as have verticle drops - looking at Charge spoon saddle, slice bars...changing standard stem with adaptor to use ahead stems, set of slicks and voila - a great retro hack ..hopefully...........see my other post for crank help....looking for, I think a 48t crank to use on this

ride_whenever

rhann wrote:

why buy all new components, look for second hand no point spending lots of money if its just for general use, be cheaper to buy an Apollo in halfords

have you ridden a nicely re-furbed old bike and an apollo? I'd rather stick the money on the muddy fox frame to make a fun ss hack than ride an apollo, much more pleasant.

The Northern Monkey

supersonic wrote:

Keep an eye on the crank - that model was recalled as the arms had a habit of fracturing.

hehe crank is going along with bb. On the look out for a cheap deore or something I can turn into a single ring

want a new headset, stem (if that's possible), bars and brakes. Oh and seat

nicklouse

you can change the threaded to a A headset setup if you change the fork.



there are adaptors that will do this as well but.....

The Big Cheese

bigbenj_08 wrote:

supersonic wrote:

Keep an eye on the crank - that model was recalled as the arms had a habit of fracturing.

hehe crank is going along with bb. On the look out for a cheap deore or something I can turn into a single ring

want a new headset, stem (if that's possible), bars and brakes. Oh and seat

Again, try retrobike, lots of kit turns up there dirt cheap, seriously, cheaper than any store, and the guys are honest, genuine sellers.....

The Northern Monkey

nicklouse wrote:

you can change the threaded to a A headset setup if you change the fork.



there are adaptors that will do this as well but.....

hmm. Ideally I'd like to keep the original fork. Think I'll try and get the old headset/stem apart before making decisions lol!

edhornby

I've done a respray of an everyday commuter recently, and you often find that once you start taking it to bits you end up spending a lot of cash on it, and it takes longer than you initially expect before it's running again

before you start changing it, try cleaning lubing and adjusting the current hardware and see if it lasts, if it does then leave it as is, just change the bits when they are knackered

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