What has he done?
redddraggon
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djbarren wrote:Ok so here goes, I am away at work for the weekend and have just had time to check my e-mails and forums etc.
Now when i'm away I normally log out of all my forums, but this time I have forgot, wish I remembered as now I am being branded a retard for a false pic and making up a story.
Firstly my bro is into bikes and was thinking about buying one and some geeser in bikeitcycles in belfast told him a story on this picture, thats how he knew about it.
Secondly I am going to kick the tripe out of him for doing what he has done when I see him on monday.
To all the people who have a Planet X, I regret what he has done and apologise for the story he had manufactured.
I am in a part time Uni course but it is my BEng through the open uni.
How can I ever be taken seriously on this forum again? this is the question I asked the bro when I rang him, he has alot to make up for.
Again I can not say sorry enough for my twisted brothers actions. Please accept my apology on his behalf.
you mean I've sawn mine in half for no reason at all.......0 -
redddraggon wrote:Huh?
Ignore it. They uploaded pictures claiming to be a brand which is was not. The thread was just removed by moderators.Road: Felt AR0, Di2
Touring/commute: Dolan Multricross
TT: PX Exocet Sold because it was like a sail in the wind (sh*t)0 -
x8swift9x wrote:redddraggon wrote:Huh?
Ignore it. They uploaded pictures claiming to be a brand which is was not. The thread was just removed by moderators.
anybody want the two halves of my PX ......
makes for a really really light frame ....
does superglue work on carbon?!?!?0 -
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The moral of the story is always buy 2 frames, chop one up have a look to make sure it is what it says on the tin.
Now do PX have any more left?0 -
your brother did a good job of mimicking your writing style for a while though till he was caught out when he suddenly changed persona dramatically. I agree with the point you made to him on the phone. Good luck
Glad to see the mods were on the case."The only absolute statement is that everything is relative" - anon0 -
Mods just delete the offending posts not the whole thread - I was enjoying reading it!
The going round in circles, my dad will beat your dad, I've got a better frame cos the marketing bumph has told me so etc etc etc
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Oh and check out djbarren's IP address to see if it was his brother! :roll:0
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redddraggon wrote:I'm still lost :?
Can someone please summarise?
" shite frame " thread killed by " iffy " photo of cut up carbon frame alluding to be stuffed full of anything but carbon and passed off as a well known provider of great value complete bike deals ...
it wasnt .
hope that keeps the legals happy !
I love my bike thas was purchased from a provider of great value complete bikes by the way .....just to clear that up !0 -
Shame the thread was pulled, it was just getting interesting! But it means we're still waiting for tacx boy to offer us some evidence to back up his opinion of PX frames, seeing as how the papier maché angle didn't work out...0
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He did get a bit excited when the picture was posted!______________________________________________
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Just seen this thread from the other day http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12650805 Person introduces themselves as ebay bike shop.
Tacx Boy is the first to jump on the band wagon! Maybe it's his shop, which is where he gained that insider industry knowledge!! (If only I could check IP's, as that would make me laugh)Road: Felt AR0, Di2
Touring/commute: Dolan Multricross
TT: PX Exocet Sold because it was like a sail in the wind (sh*t)0 -
it can seem a little odd when people seem so dead set against a specific brand of anything which they don't even own ..."The only absolute statement is that everything is relative" - anon0
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??? WTF is this all about ?My knees hurt !0
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x8swift9x wrote:Just seen this thread from the other day http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12650805 Person introduces themselves as ebay bike shop.
Tacx Boy is the first to jump on the band wagon! Maybe it's his shop, which is where he gained that insider industry knowledge!! (If only I could check IP's, as that would make me laugh)
I've dealt with this on the relevant thread. You are wrong.
What I've found on this forum is there are loads of people with plenty of mouth but very little knowledge0 -
When you were asked to enlighten us with your wisdom you, erm, didn't...0
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You were repeatedly asked by several forum members for a list of 1k bikes that were better specced than the Planet X for the same money.0
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NapoleonD wrote:You were repeatedly asked by several forum members for a list of 1k bikes that were better specced than the Planet X for the same money.
That isn't what I was asked. Wrong again. Are you sure you aren't a police officer? You make a lot of stuff up to suit your own agenda0 -
Yes it was, repeatedly. I also asked you, repeatedly, to offer any evidence to justify your opinion that the PX frame is"shite": why don't you?Tacx Boy wrote:NapoleonD wrote:You were repeatedly asked by several forum members for a list of 1k bikes that were better specced than the Planet X for the same money.
That isn't what I was asked. Wrong again. Are you sure you aren't a police officer? You make a lot of stuff up to suit your own agenda
The agenda that rather a lot of us share is that we like to come on this forum and talk about cycling. People here have often strong opinions and like to air them, sometimes in a heated way; but there is a bit of an unstated assumption that you try and justify your arguments with evidence.
Here are a couple of examples you might try:
"A survey has found that 43% of PX customers have had problems with their frames"
"BR comparative test gives PX frame 1 star, other frame at same price 5 stars"
"if you look at the joins, you'll find they've skimped on the ...(insert something highly technical here)"
"the frames are made of newspaper painted black"
or even just a personal opinion, if it was based on experience, like
"I rode one once and didn't like it"
would be more than you have offered here.
Any of these things might or might not be true, I don't know, that's one of the reasons I like this forum - I am happy to acknowledge that there are people who know more than I do here.
Can you actually see what we're getting at? People have challenged your views, not because they're shouting insults at you, but because they want you to defend them with evidence.
In return, you have simply repeated over and over "shite frame, shite frame, shite frame" and then when that didn't go down well, you've added personal abuse to it. Trying cheap jibes based on someone's job is really a bit pathetic, to save you looking me up in other forums I'll point out that I'm a teacher, I drive a Skoda, and I bought some great bargains at Aldi on Thursday.0 -
bompington wrote:I'm a teacher, I drive a Skoda, and I bought some great bargains at Aldi on Thursday.
:shock: :shock: *shakes head*
Shame on you!
Bianchi. There are no alternatives only compromises!
I RIDE A KONA CADABRA -would you like to come and have a play with my magic link?0 -
OK I'll try again.
I dislike the geometry of the PX frame. Very sloping top tube makes for a 'strange' ride quality. The bottom bracket flexes hugely (or it did on the one I rode intensively).
I think the £999 deal is a great buy if you can put up with what i believe is a very poor frame and have the ability to build the bike yourself. The finishing kit is also pretty poor IMHO.
Personally, if I was on a tight budget I'd take the £999 deal and sell the frame on eBay and then buy a good £500 carbon frame (there are a few really good ones out there). I'd also probably get rid of the finishing kit on eBay and upgrade that. Granted it would probably end up more than the £999 but IMHO you'd end up with an infintely better bike.
PX are making decent money on this deal. Do the maths for yourselves as to how much this frame is worth.
I'm building a bike at the moment with a Ridley Helium frameset and Campag Chorus groupset. Up to now this lot has cost me less than £1,300. I could put a cheao wheelset and finishing kit on it and have a bike for about £1,500 that would have an infintely better frame than PX (do we all agree?) a much, much better groupset (cue campag v Shimano debate) and have a very high resale value should I want to sell it.
My point all along is that you get what you pay for. The PX frame is worth about £200. is anyone seriously suggesting you can get a good carbon frame for £200? Do you think Pinarello makes £2,000+ profit on a Prince or a Dogma.
The vast majority of people who are delighted with their PX bikes don't know any better. That isn't their fault. PX do a great job in creating the illusion that they are offering a superb product at a really cheap price. What they are doing is building a bike to a price point.
They put together stuff to get around £1,000 because they know most of their potential customers will pay that. It's not rocket science to work out that savings have to be made somewhere along the line.
Then we get someone from Planet X coming on the forum telling us all how great they are. I'm shocked.
The problem with this forum is that it is populated by people with very little knowledge of the industry, technology or bikes and cycling in general. They could be helped to make educated choices if it wasn't for this whole PX hysteria.
I started this off by saying that in my opinion the PX frame is shite. I stand by that but fully accept that when 1,000 flies gather round a turd it will create the belief that 1,000 flies can't be wrong0 -
Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:bompington wrote:I'm a teacher, I drive a Skoda, and I bought some great bargains at Aldi on Thursday.
:shock: :shock: *shakes head*
Shame on you!
Don't get me started on teachers.0 -
Tacx Boy wrote:I could put a cheao wheelset and finishing kit on it and have a bike for about £1,500 that would have an infintely better frame than PX (do we all agree?)
Thats a price increase of 50.2%. So thats a worthless comparison!Road: Felt AR0, Di2
Touring/commute: Dolan Multricross
TT: PX Exocet Sold because it was like a sail in the wind (sh*t)0 -
Tacx Boy wrote:NapoleonD wrote:You were repeatedly asked by several forum members for a list of 1k bikes that were better specced than the Planet X for the same money.
That isn't what I was asked. Wrong again. Are you sure you aren't a police officer? You make a lot of stuff up to suit your own agenda
I asked you on numerous occassions to comment directly on the post from Daveplanetx .." from the horses mouth"
ignored , ignored , ignored.....or is it because there is a " no conflict " code ........" in the trade" ...
funny how we all know nothing and are perfect sport for put downs yet when a representative of PX posts company, customer and pro feedback....it doesnt warrant a response from you...
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Tacx Boy wrote:What I've found on this forum is there are loads of people with plenty of mouth but very little knowledge
You seem to think a cyclist would know more about design and materials than an engineer, so I guess you're one of the "loads of people with plenty of mouth but very little knowledge".0 -
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