Ribble Deda EM2 alu frame - TOO light???
itsallinthelegs
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Hello,
Currently looking at a build on ribble based around the Deda EM2 aluminium frame which weighs in at 950g!! Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems very light for an alu frame?
I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on the strength/reliability of this frame or of very lightweight alu frames in general? Is it going to buckle the first time I get out of the saddle to sprint through some lights? I weigh 73kg, so I'm not heavy, but I do tend to like to push fairly high gears rather than egg-whisking along.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Currently looking at a build on ribble based around the Deda EM2 aluminium frame which weighs in at 950g!! Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems very light for an alu frame?
I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on the strength/reliability of this frame or of very lightweight alu frames in general? Is it going to buckle the first time I get out of the saddle to sprint through some lights? I weigh 73kg, so I'm not heavy, but I do tend to like to push fairly high gears rather than egg-whisking along.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
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Hi had one a few years ago,nice and light, but they dont last. Did about 15 spoco tt and 10 hc over a year, with the odd weekend ride, no winter or rain days out. Come the following year hole the size of 5p appeared on down tube,just corroded away. Ribble didnt want to know suprise,suprise.Havent used em sinse. :roll:0
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:shock: ok, that's not good...0
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Someone else must have an opinion on this?0
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Jees, thats light weight!Shazam !!0
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I looked at the ali frame prior to buying the carbon. I could quite easily press in the top tube around the middle of it, that put me right off. I think somewhere on here somone said they are only built to last a couple of seasons!!! Don't know how true that is but they are very thin tubes.
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Rapidly losing my initial enthusiasm for that frame.... Will have a look at their carbon models, but reckon they are less value for money as the prices start approaching similar builds from bigger manufacturers such as Focus for ex.0
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And your point is what then? You don't think they are as good? You don't want to be different? You don't think the quality is as good? What?Rapidly losing my initial enthusiasm for that frame.... Will have a look at their carbon models, but reckon they are less value for money as the prices start approaching similar builds from bigger manufacturers such as Focus for ex.
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Skinson I'm not sure what you are on about.
If a frame can be pressed in like you say then frankly it is total rubbish and I wouldn't ride it if you paid me.
If you ride a Ribble are you avant-garde then? Are you different because not many people ride them? Maybe they don't ride them because they are poor quality.Contador is the Greatest0 -
lots of frames can be pressed in - see some of the top-end carbon stuff like the scott CR1 addict and the like
If they can get the stiffness in the frame by using think walled tubing then it saves weight - and if the tubes deform a little then so what?0 -
First off as I understand it, skinson was saying he could press in the alu frame not carbon and second, if a frame deforms so easily then I would think it unsafe and should you crash it may well be a write off.Contador is the Greatest0
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true - but if you think it about it - surely alu tubes are even more likely to deform than plastic no? - it wouldn't bother me - it just shows thin tubing.
crashing writes a lot of frames off - again I wouldn't worry about it - and even if it does, at least it's a cheap frame to replace!0 -
Sounds like a "Coke Can Alloy"!
950g for an alu frame.......this is a joke right? No wonder it goes kaput in no time :shock:
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With a little force I could feel the tube giving, Having said that, my old vitus 980 steel frame felt very similar although I needed more force on that :shock:
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skinson wrote:And your point is what then? You don't think they are as good? You don't want to be different? You don't think the quality is as good? What?
Dave
Skinson, not really sure where you are coming from, but you're certainly coming across as confused and a little oafish. Are you defending Ribble now then? My point is simply that if you build up their base-level 3k carbon frame, you can get similar components on a 12k carbon frame from a bigger, better-established manufacturer.
The only way small-scale outfits such as Ribble or Planet-X can beat the big guys is either by offering exceptional value for money, OR at the other end of the scale, exceptional quality goods (custom build, highest end components, etc). Once you start getting into the middle ground, then yes, you are much better off going for a larger manufacturer.
Now, if the alu frame from the OP was getting better reviews, it would be great value for money to buy from them. However, based on what I've read here and elsewhere, it really is too good to be true.0 -
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Oafish?............I've always defended Ribble, if you could be arsed to get your nose out of the dictionary, and check some of my posts! Just because I wasn't keen on one frame doesn't mean I don't like the rest of their gear. It was you who asked for opinions on it? Also if you think a decent carbon frame with full ultegra gruppo, fulcrum wheels, and deda finishing kit isn't good value at £1100, then obviously you must know of a better value bike elsewhere. Either that or you are being led like the rest of the sheep on here into believing spending more money always results in a better bike
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Reddragon.
We all know you ride a ribble, and secretly hanker after my bike :twisted:
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As well as the durability issues, Ribble are not honest with their frame weights IME.0
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I'm always embarrassed when I ride my Ribble, it was wasn't too bad when I used to go out with the wheelers though because everyone else had the same frame.
There must be a lot of embarrassed people riding bikes then matey! What other excuse is there for wearing dark glasses on a cloudy day??
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Skinson, not at all, your opinion has very probably stopped me from spending money I would have regretted, and so is worth about £1000!! So thank you, it was exactly the kind of first-hand experience I needed.
I just thought you were being overly defensive in your defense of Ribble, but if as you say you are always defending them on the forum (no, I haven't read any of your other posts) then that's understandable.
For the record, I would have no problem buying a Ribble branded frame - especially living in France I reckon it'd be pretty unique! But same principle of quality/cost applies to them as any other manufacturer.0 -
Skinson works for Ribble when he's not being a fireman IIRC...0
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Skinson works for Ribble when he's not being a fireman IIRC...
Oooo! you bitch..... Just because we get to sleep on nights
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I try my best to sometimes!
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Hehe!! Well if you can find a dark corner to rest your weary head, it can only mean better value for the tax payer mate!!
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I spoke to Ribble about this frame - The guy I spoke to advised not buying this as a general purpose sportive frame as it wouldn't be durable, and was more suited to racing...0
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Is he on this planet? I mean, break it to the salesman gently, but..........frames DO get damaged in crashes that happen in road races! So does he think everyone buys a frame per year :shock:0
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Maybe thats what he was alluding too.....a cheaper, less durable frame which is 'affordable to lose' every so often is better for racing whereas many people for sportif use, where there is less chance of damage, may want to hang on to their frame that bit longer and select a longer term option. Seems good advice to me, advising the customer according to their needs.PianoMan wrote:Is he on this planet? I mean, break it to the salesman gently, but..........frames DO get damaged in crashes that happen in road races! So does he think everyone buys a frame per year :shock:0 -
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Maybe thats what he was alluding too.....a cheaper, less durable frame which is 'affordable to lose' every so often is better for racing whereas many people for sportif use, where there is less chance of damage, may want to hang on to their frame that bit longer and select a longer term option. Seems good advice to me, advising the customer according to their needs.PianoMan wrote:Is he on this planet? I mean, break it to the salesman gently, but..........frames DO get damaged in crashes that happen in road races! So does he think everyone buys a frame per year :shock:
Ditto.0
