bike frame
lingwoodmick
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Anyone got any thoughts on the similarities or differences between the specialised tarmac elite, planet x pro sl carbon, or ribble sportive frames?
Is the Specialised better quality?
Thanks
Is the Specialised better quality?
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Not sure about quality, but the geometries will probably be different, so some frames may allow certain body positions to be achieved, which others wont. Some frames promote an upright, relaxed position and others are really aggressive.
You can use this to work out your ideal bike size: http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CC ... ATOR_INTRO
Compare it against the frames and see which frame would allow you get into your ideal body position best.0 -
Have you got any thoughts on the type of riding you intend to do with your new bike? As some frames may be more suitable for your intended use.Cycling weakly0
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Specialized tarmac frames are excellent and are pricey because of the extensive research and development that specialized do. Planet x and ribble are cheaper as they often lack stiffness and feel dead. This is because they are essentially just basic carbon frames with branding on them!0
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Skydog
I intend to use it for getting to work (16 miles each way), fun at the weekends and a few triathlons each year.
I am 6 feet tall and weigh 14st
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joshposh wrote:Specialized tarmac frames are excellent and are pricey because of the extensive research and development that specialized do. Planet x and ribble are cheaper as they often lack stiffness and feel dead. This is because they are essentially just basic carbon frames with branding on them!
My nomination for 'forum bull' of the week - this is such an ill-informed comment with no substance, but could only come from a Specialized Tarmac owner trying to justify his purchase but offers nothing of value to the original poster.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0 -
Specialized tarmac frames are excellent and are pricey because of the extensive research and development that specialized do. Planet x and ribble are cheaper as they often lack stiffness and feel dead. This is because they are essentially just basic carbon frames with branding on them!
What a load of old bollox!!! So, obviously you have ridden planet x and ribble bikes extensively in order for you to make such a bold statement?
I do concede the point about own name branding, but, ribble use the italian frame manufacturer Deddacia. But "basic"? what constitutes a "basic frame pray tell?
Feeling dead? I'd be very interested to hear your theories on "dead feeling" frames?
Seems to me you may have spent a little to much of your hard earned on a spesh, only to realize (far to late) that perhaps spending less could have got you a bike that will match it in any given circumstance you are likely to ride. Unless you go under a pseudonym Mr Wiggins?
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I agree with the last two postings. What a load of old cobblers from poshnosh. As they say 'get advice from someone who knows what they are talking about rather than from those who think they do'.0
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Indeed i am the proud owner of a specialized s-works sl2! After riding both planet x and ribble bikes considerably i can conclude that the cheaper frames use a cheaper weave and therefore flex a lot more easily! I can get a planet x time trial bike to flex around the bottom bracket area whereas i cant get so much as a twitch out of my specialized! Those of you who believe this to be rubbish are obviously ill informed or just proud of a ribble or planet x. Yes these bikes are good in there own right but why do you think and s-works frame costs substantially more than the ribble frames? Because the r+d is significantly more extensive in order to produce a better quality frame which reacts to various situations in appropriate ways!0
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Oh! there appears to be a little something in the corner of your mouth? Hmm! looks a bit like bull shit from here. As I said in my first reply, you are miffed that you got shafted buying a bike that is no different to any other on the market, and are trying justify it by spouting the biggest load of crap since Harold Macmillan told us "we've never had it so good" Now, run along the adults are talking. :roll:
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skinson wrote:Specialized tarmac frames are excellent and are pricey because of the extensive research and development that specialized do. Planet x and ribble are cheaper as they often lack stiffness and feel dead. This is because they are essentially just basic carbon frames with branding on them!
What a load of old bollox!!! So, obviously you have ridden planet x and ribble bikes extensively in order for you to make such a bold statement?
I do concede the point about own name branding, but, ribble use the italian frame manufacturer Deddacia. But "basic"? what constitutes a "basic frame pray tell?
Feeling dead? I'd be very interested to hear your theories on "dead feeling" frames?
Seems to me you may have spent a little to much of your hard earned on a spesh, only to realize (far to late) that perhaps spending less could have got you a bike that will match it in any given circumstance you are likely to ride. Unless you go under a pseudonym Mr Wiggins?
Dave
Dedacciai frames aren't that good - and I should know as I own one.0 -
joshposh wrote:Indeed i am the proud owner of a specialized s-works sl2! After riding both planet x and ribble bikes considerably i can conclude that the cheaper frames use a cheaper weave and therefore flex a lot more easily!
Where did you do your degree in materials science?0 -
Im sorry theres no denying it but more often than not the expensive frames are better (not in all cases but this one for sure). I believe there may be a hint of jealousy coming into play!0
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Thanks for all the comments, even though some of them seem a bit heated!
I am sure joshposh's bike is superstiff (perhaps like his 'wood' when he gets on it) but I can't afford to pay that kind of money! I don't think it is an equal comparison.
I had seen some tarmac elites reduced and was trying to make a comparison for around the £1100 mark. I did consider the cayo and boardman before anyone suggests them!
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Dedacciai frames aren't that good - and I should know as I own one.
Me also,and although they are not next to the fairy on the christmas tree, they are a long way from getting watered every day! This neer do well is talking out of his arse though.
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joshposh wrote:Im sorry theres no denying it but more often than not the expensive frames are better (not in all cases but this one for sure). I believe there may be a hint of jealousy coming into play!
Generally you are right that the more expensive frames are better, but with a company like Specialized you are still paying a huge amount for the name and the marketing. I guess they spent the money wisely on marketing as you seem to believe in it.
Yes the frame is a good one (SL2), whether or not it's worth it is your opinion.0 -
It certainly was worth it considering the price i paid for it!0
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lingwoodmick wrote:Anyone got any thoughts on the similarities or differences between the specialised tarmac elite, planet x pro sl carbon, or ribble sportive frames?
Is the Specialised better quality?
Thanks
I would get in touch with a few IBD's and see if you can get a test ride on each of the bikes. I am not talking just a quick ride down the road. Have a few hours on the bike and put it through its paces. Get a feel for the bikes and then make your decision.
You might not get much more out of this thread as it seems to have descended into a "my dad's bigger than your dad" slanging match.
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Ooh Miaow!
By and large, you get what you pay for in life. No less true with bike frames than anything else.
As long as the intended purpose of the frame suits you of course, you're better off gettign the best frame you can afford then compromoise on everything else. If funds allow, get really good wheels too. The other stuff you can upgrade as it wears out / yoiu get more money, TBH it won't make a vast difference to the ride.
Now I'm off to look down my nose at all the poor, inadequate Specialized owners :-)0 -
My dads dead mate! Also, I can' t see anywhere in the thread where I've said "my frames better than yours"?You might not get much more out of this thread as it seems to have descended into a "my dad's bigger than your dad" slanging match.
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skinson wrote:
My dads dead mate! Also, I can' t see anywhere in the thread where I've said "my frames better than yours"?You might not get much more out of this thread as it seems to have descended into a "my dad's bigger than your dad" slanging match.
Dave
Sorry if I have offended you skinson, it was supposed to be tongue in cheek.0 -
Nah! It's ok mate you didn't kill him!! :twisted: I've been a fireman for 27 years, there isn't a person on the planet who could offend me....
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Dedacciai frames aren't that good - and I should know as I own one.
You've burst my bubble there as I'm thinking of getting one.
What is it about them you don't like?0 -
sturmey wrote:Dedacciai frames aren't that good - and I should know as I own one.
You've burst my bubble there as I'm thinking of getting one.
What is it about them you don't like?
It's just the geometry on mine is a bit dodgy, and looks a bit dodgy because of the shape of the tubes.0
