This turned up today....

The Big Cheese
The Big Cheese Posts: 8,651
edited August 2009 in MTB general
My new Joplin post, good solid, quality construction, pretty weighty though!!! But will come in handy around Cannock in a few weeks (BR forum ride)

Not sure if it's worth the price tag yet, but will defo come in handy on my Marin....

Crank Bros packaging has always been pretty sexy too!

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  • bomberesque
    bomberesque Posts: 1,701
    Just go myself one last week. :D

    I too winced at the price, but having had a Gravity Dropper in the past I have to say that the functionality (if you are, like me, a serial seatpost adjuster) is just superb. I was bouyed up by the 2 year warranty aswell as the shop guy's advice to "keep the receipt close as we do get returns". I understand that, while there are reliability issues with these, CB seem to stand firmly behind their warranty and that's good enough for me.

    I still think they're crazy money though......
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    If riding an XC race bike is like touching the trail,
    then riding a rigid singlespeed is like licking it
    ... or being punched by it, depending on the day
  • Used mine to good effect at Glyncorrwg last weekend & It really gives me confidence to get the weight back on ragged drops etc.
    Only fit it when needed though and replace with standard post for 95% of the time.
    Good tip is to tin the cable end with solder to stop it fraying.

    edited to add.
    I run my cable though the top shock mount to keep it tidy hence needing to pull the cable from the post mount. Yes I know you have the lever version.
  • i did read somewhere that cutting a piece of tube the length of the dropping section and cable tieing it in place will help keep any of the dirt/grit etc out for longer life??
    no idea if it works though as i dont even have a Qr on my seat post!:wink:
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Doesn't look like it adjusts much. I like having my saddle way down out of the way.

    Keep us informed how well it lasts. I'm interested in the idea behind them, but refuse to spend that much money, especially when they get sloppy over time.
  • Looks alright.....in the box :lol:

    Can't say i'd fork out for one tbh, I don't tend to sit down much anyways!
  • bomberesque
    bomberesque Posts: 1,701
    Doesn't look like it adjusts much. I like having my saddle way down out of the way.

    Keep us informed how well it lasts. I'm interested in the idea behind them, but refuse to spend that much money, especially when they get sloppy over time.

    adjustment (on the one I got at least) is 75mm/3" which isn't enough to go from full leg extension (XC climber jehyboi) to jump bike saddle on the back wheel, but will do for me I think
    Price is, as you say, ludicrous. I eventually just closed my eyes and got my card out as I was wearing thorugh normal posts. I've been waiting 2 years for more competition in the market to bring prices down and it just doesn't seem to be happening. Either I'm way wrong about how much it costs to make these things or the market needs more time to develop decent alternatives.
    as for developing play, the shop guy told me that this does (can) happen but that they will replace them / repair under warranty for this
    Everything in moderation ... except beer
    Beer in moderation ... is a waste of beer

    If riding an XC race bike is like touching the trail,
    then riding a rigid singlespeed is like licking it
    ... or being punched by it, depending on the day
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Cheesey, been there and done it with the Joplin and I am an absolute advocate of the product myself.
    The Joplin's 75mm drop is more than adequate for an All Mountain bike - keeping in mind that the Joplin's primary function is that of an "adjustable all mountain seatpost"
    The Joplin is also super reliable and like most things MTB does require some basic maintenance that can be undertaken at home with standard tools.
    Mine has been caked with Wilthsire clay, mud, dust and all sorts and it's never, ever skipped a beat - take the fact I weigh just on 200LBS into consideration too.

    Cheesey I see you didn't go for the Remote option.. well neither did I and it works quite well when riding slow and having time to drop/raise the saddle before/after tackling a descent.
    However I had two major spills while raising the saddle, riding one handed and accessing the under seat lever! This was while trying to keep up with friends who are fast riders.. no time to slow down and raise the saddle, a momentary lapse of concentration combined with only one hand on the bars = crash!

    I have now fitted the remote kit and it's just made the Joplin that so much better. I am sure you may consider the remote kit at a later date, it just completes the Joplin package so well.
    Price is, as you say, ludicrous. I eventually just closed my eyes and got my card out as I was wearing thorugh normal posts. I've been waiting 2 years for more competition in the market to bring prices down and it just doesn't seem to be happening. Either I'm way wrong about how much it costs to make these things or the market needs more time to develop decent alternatives.
    as for developing play, the shop guy told me that this does (can) happen but that they will replace them / repair under warranty for this

    There are cheaper alternatives out there, but they're nowhere near as reliable. I've seen many a Post on this and other Forums about the issues with the Pure i900 version

    As for the play, well I mentioned this on a Thread on the Joplin a few weeks bag. It's the guide block which is a cheap, user replacable part, but it will be replaced under warranty within the 2 year warranty period.

    Here is Sheepsteeth's Joplin Thread
  • Yukon Lad
    Yukon Lad Posts: 423
    They are mint them, but too expensive for me. I would buy a gravity dropper cos i'm not too fussed about weight but joplins are awesome in terms of functionality and are a bit lighter but they are meant to develop lateral play over tme

    Yukon Lad
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  • I thought about it but then i spent it on some carbon fibre stuffs instead, may get one when I get back from holiday.
    I use all 9 inches.

    Sabrina
  • Well, fitted it earlier, my fooking Quake has a burr in the seatube but I can't get at it, nothing like a hideous 'scrrrreeeeeeech' when you put £140 seatpost in is there!!!! :twisted:

    Anyhoo, Quake is going to LBS for indexing and chain fitting (might as well get him to do the lot), so can't report on functionality, but I have it so it's OK for trail riding, then drop it low enough for descents!
  • Broonster
    Broonster Posts: 440
    Jesus, I just looked at these on CRC. I knew they were expensive, but didn't realise they were THAT expensive! :shock:
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  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Broonster wrote:
    Jesus, I just looked at these on CRC. I knew they were expensive, but didn't realise they were THAT expensive! :shock:

    Even more expensive when you buy the Joplin Remote kit after purchasing the seatpost, but money very well spent. You have to reap the benefits of using one to totally appreciate them.. and they were under £140 @ Wiggle when I bought mine.

    I see the price has been raised to offset the exchange rate madness we suffered a few months back.. and substantially I may add: £170@ Wiggle!!! WTF!!
  • lesz42
    lesz42 Posts: 690
    sad question this, change the height of the seat by a large amount, but not often, if i am unsure of a section i drop it, nearly all the way down, then back up to "normal" height

    being a noob at lladegla red/black i like to have some room, this ok? or just it up? llandegla is tame ?
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Les, there's nothing wrong with that.
    i for one prefer to ride with my saddle right down, giving me plenty of room to manouver over the bike.
    However, if I want to sit down and pedal, I have to get my seat up to a sensible height.

    So the way I see it is that I need to raise my seat for the boring climbs where I'm going to be seated for a while - not drop my seat for the techy bits.
  • So, should I decide that I want the remote lock-out function, can I just buy the kit from CRC and convert it then? Is it easy enough to do?
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Cheesey wrote:
    So, should I decide that I want the remote lock-out function, can I just buy the kit from CRC and convert it then? Is it easy enough to do?

    Absolutely - but use it without the remote first, then you'll see the massive difference the remote makes

    The kit is easy to fit too..
    Tools needed are some LocTite, pliers, a small hammer (or something you can use to knock the small pin out without causing any damage) Allen keys and small Torx wenches.
    Oh and an M:Part Self Adhesive Cable Guide may be needed to keep the cable along the frame tube.
  • Excellent news, probably will give it a bash for a few rides, then see about getting the cable..... ;)

    I take it comes with instructions.. :wink:
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Cheesey wrote:
    I take it comes with instructions.. :wink:

    Absolutely..
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Cheesey wrote:
    I take it comes with instructions.. :wink:

    Yes

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    i love mine, i wouldnt be without it on my enduro. i also echo the sentiment that a remote is nedd to uset he post to its full extent. if you have to slow down to pull the saddle lever, you might as well stop and adjust the qr!! (not quite but nearly)

    the remote makes everything so much more intuitive and makes your ride completely different.

    they are a shocking expenive bit of kit, i dnt know how it can be justified but for me, the money is well worth it, i think i will have made a boot for the stanchion by the cannock ride by using a bit of inner tube.