How do I stop the front wheel from breaking away from me?

Darra8
Darra8 Posts: 721
edited August 2009 in MTB general
Hi Guys,

It seems that when ever I go out on a ride at some point I will feel that the front wheel is about to break away from me and I will lose my balance an fall off. It's mostly when going around corners, and at any speed. It can also happen on very loose sandy ground going in a straight line.

I have been running kenda SB8's all Summer on a bike I put together myself, from a malt 1 frame and exotic rigid fork. Because of this, I tend to ride around these corners with my weight off the front end...is this the right thing to do? Can any one give me any tips on how to ride to stop this from happening, as it's really effecting my confidence :cry:

Cheers,

Steve
40 year old pussy who "still" hates the thought of falling off!!

Comments

  • Try lowering your front tyre pressure a few psi. Makes all the difference.
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  • Well this is a minefield topic, there are many aspects and contributing factors, ie; tyre pressure, tyre width, suspension settings, bar width/rise, stem length and riding style.

    I can however offer a few pointers, firstly your riding style, I corner (as im sure many do) with my outside foot on the bottom of the crank stroke thus transferring your weight to the push the tyres into the turn, this has the added benefit that if your front wheel (or rear) does slip then you may be able to catch it with a dab of your inside foot.

    Secondly is tyre pressure and suspension set up which can vary greatly depending on rider weight and preference so I wont go into too much detail but its worth looking at.

    Thirdly, things like your bars and stem, try if you can to swap parts with a mate and give longer/shorter stems and wider/higher rise bars etc a try and see what you like. I find a shorter stem gives me better feel of the bike but others may disagree.
  • I'd suggest getting your weight toward the front wheel rather than further back over the bike, and turn your hips into the turn.
    Maybe you need a shorter stem, it might put you over the front wheel a little more. You could always try a different front tyre as well.
  • Darra8
    Darra8 Posts: 721
    Front tyre pressure is around 35 psi at the moment, and my stem is 90mm.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Darra8 wrote:
    I tend to ride around these corners with my weight off the front end
    THAT, is precisely where you're going wrong. You need to force the front wheel into the ground. You can practically ignore the rear wheel, it will follow you round anyway.

    And, contrary to previous advice, a LONGER stem will force you to be leaning more weight over the front, not a shorter one - but I wouldn't bother with that.
    Just practice weighing the front down on corners. It will feel quite unnatural until you get the knack of it.
  • paul.skibum
    paul.skibum Posts: 4,068
    Like Yee...... says - gotta weight the front wheel into the corner you can let it go away from you out of the corner getting the weight on the back to power out of the turn but weight the front in.
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    Darra8 wrote:
    I tend to ride around these corners with my weight off the front end...is this the right thing to do?
    No weight, no grip.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    What is the bike? What is the head angle?
  • captainfly
    captainfly Posts: 1,001
    Firstly check the rotation direction of the front tyre, yes I put mine back on wrong after a puncture and the front end was awful :D

    There is the old chestnut of tyre pressure, then general technique you know load the front end and lean in more, for balance and more tyre contact, simple handling stuff. Start off slower then build up speed gradualy feeling for what works for you.
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  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    Have you got front suspension? Is the rebound damping adjustable? You may have too little rebound damping, in which case add more..

    Stay off the brakes when cornering (especially the front, despite what Supersonic will tell you... :lol::wink: ).

    Try to keep your weight more central/forward biased.

    What sort of tyre are you using and in what conditions? Some tyres are blimming awful for cornering.
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  • xtreem
    xtreem Posts: 2,965
    Have you got front suspension? Is the rebound damping adjustable? You may have too little rebound damping, in which case add more..

    What sort of tyre are you using and in what conditions? Some tyres are blimming awful for cornering.
    He said in the first post, " exotic rigid fork" and "kenda SB8", you just didn't read. :lol:

    My words, your tires are not so good for nice angles when cornering. Small knobs.
    Put Highrollers 2.1 and you'll see what I'm talking about. But I don't recomend it for on road use.

    And as yeehaamcgee said about weight.
  • Darra8
    Darra8 Posts: 721
    Thanks for all the help guys.

    I will try and put my weight more forward and see what happens.

    Steve
    40 year old pussy who "still" hates the thought of falling off!!
  • kitenski
    kitenski Posts: 218
    I've not found those tyres to be the best in anything apart from bone dry conditions, the front slipped out on me doing a switchback climb in Dalby on the same tyres in damp conditions a week or so ago.
  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    Xtreem wrote:
    He said in the first post, " exotic rigid fork" and "kenda SB8", you just didn't read. :lol:

    D'oh!!
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