question for joplin owners

Anonymous

i just took delivery of a joplin remote post. it is very cool and hopefully more reliable than the maverick post it is based on and i used to own.

question is : how do you route your remote cable and keep it tidy? my maverick was fitted to a reign and the cable could be tied to one of the brake hoses under the top tube so was nice and tidy. my enduro doesnt have top tube routed cables so at the moment i have to cable tie around the top tube:

there must be a better way?

Sarnian

Looks like the only way to me, unless you can get a longer cable and take It down the seat tube under the BB and back up the down tube.

Anonymous

get that man a cyber pint, dont know why i didnt think of that myself, turns out ive got a spare outer and inner which are the same colour as the goldish ones already fitted so i used that and hey presto, loads tidier:

tested the saddle in all positions and the cable stays out of the way so it is sorted, might swap the white cable ties out for black ones but for now, sorted.

SDK2007

Have you seen the new Specialized Chain Stay Guards - they look and work much better than those old frabric ones. Think they cost about £10

Anonymous

do you mean the pastic clip on ones? ive got one on my stumpy but didnt know if they would fit the enduro, i take it they do?

Sarnian

sheepsteeth wrote:

get that man a cyber pint, dont know why i didnt think of that myself, turns out ive got a spare outer and inner which are the same colour as the goldish ones already fitted so i used that and hey presto, loads tidier:

tested the saddle in all positions and the cable stays out of the way so it is sorted, might swap the white cable ties out for black ones but for now, sorted.

If are paths cross and we ever end up In the same mess, I will hold you to that

Anonymous

you're on.

SDK2007

sheepsteeth wrote:

do you mean the pastic clip on ones? ive got one on my stumpy but didnt know if they would fit the enduro, i take it they do?

Yup, the Pitch/Enduro fits

The Northern Monkey

looks much better

Tell us how you get on with it... its quite a bit of £££ just to replace a QR lever hehe!

Anonymous

SDK2007 wrote:

sheepsteeth wrote:

do you mean the pastic clip on ones? ive got one on my stumpy but didnt know if they would fit the enduro, i take it they do?

Yup, the Pitch/Enduro fits

cool, i am off to do a search

bigbenj_08 wrote:

looks much better

Tell us how you get on with it... its quite a bit of £££ just to replace a QR lever hehe!

i have used one before, i had a maverick fitted to my reign and i only got rid as it wouldnt fit my bionicon. they are a seriously good idea, if you're a non believer you really have to try one.

they are pricey but once it's bought, it's bought and when you use it out on the trails, it is worth every penny (especially if you got it second hand for 100 quid with a new service receipt and guarantee )

think about how many times you have done a "gnarly" descent with your seat down then either had to stop and put you post back up or make do with cycling stood up or with the saddle in an inefficient place.

i hate to use the term as im not a hippy but it allows any given trail to flow so much better. you are always in the right position on your bike and everything feels better.

The Northern Monkey

lol... i ride with my seat down no matter what the trail

Because of my dodgy knee I can't climb sat down

Anonymous

aah, well it might not be for you.

the joplin has turned up with a set of servicing instructions for the user so it should be easier to look after, the maverick came with no such thing. also mine has upgraded seals according to the service report.

The Northern Monkey

Do they have any suspension to them? or does it go solid?

thats what I never really understood :idea:

Anonymous

new question:

have any joplin users thought of fitting a bit of inner tube to the post zip tied just under the post head and just below the red lockring to protect the seals from crud? im considering it as an option.

Anonymous

bigbenj_08 wrote:

Do they have any suspension to them? or does it go solid?

thats what I never really understood :idea:

they are completely solid, they are just to adjust your ride height.

delcol

i don't want to pee on your chips, but from what i have seen the joplins are like all the others work great at first then develop problems.. seen these in whistler the guys at bearbackbiking are sponsered by crankbrothers and use them, they eventually come lose and move side to side some times they seize...

i don't know if crank brothers have sorted these issues out on their new joplins, the ones i seen were the first editions...

those ks ones have issues to..

The Northern Monkey

sheepsteeth wrote:

new question:

have any joplin users thought of fitting a bit of inner tube to the post zip tied just under the post head and just below the red lockring to protect the seals from crud? im considering it as an option.

Could you not use something like a lizard skins fork boot?

IIRC, its said that they aren't great (on forks) because they hold onto mud and push it into the seals... the seals (on forks) are much better without...

Anonymous

delcol wrote:

i don't want to pee on your chips, but from what i have seen the joplins are like all the others work great at first then develop problems.. seen these in whistler the guys at bearbackbiking are sponsered by crankbrothers and use them, they eventually come lose and move side to side some times they seize...

i don't know if crank brothers have sorted these issues out on their new joplins, the ones i seen were the first editions...

those ks ones have issues to..

you are exctly right, over on mtbr there are loads of thredders owners, im hoping a regime of maintenance should kep it good to go but mine has ben fitted with the new upgraded seals, im hoping this means the issues have been resolved.

its also the reason for the inner tube idea, i wonder if by keeping the seals completely fee of dirt i can negate the problms with the post.

Raymondavalon

delcol wrote:

i don't want to pee on your chips, but from what i have seen the joplins are like all the others work great at first then develop problems.. seen these in whistler the guys at bearbackbiking are sponsered by crankbrothers and use them, they eventually come lose and move side to side some times they seize...

i don't know if crank brothers have sorted these issues out on their new joplins, the ones i seen were the first editions...

those ks ones have issues to..

Don't compare the Joplin to it's predecessor, namely the Maverick Speedball which was a great design but under engineered in the manufacturing process. Crank Bros. acquired Maverick and perfected the product.

Do a Search on Joplin and you'll surprised just how few owners have had problems.
I've had mine for over a year with no hydraulic/up/down function issues at all. There is a little (under 1mm) side to side play, but that's normal as it's where the guide block runs and that is a wear and tear (and easy to replace) part. You do not feel that minute play at all once seated.

The best thing about the Joplin is that it is user serviceable with run of the mill tools. Also every part is available if needed thanks to 2Pure distribution. The product has a two year warranty.. bonus!

Sheepsteeth

I've had mine caked in Wiltshire clay, mud, grit and all sorts and it's never skipped a beat. I do clean it off properly after every ride and lube the stanchion with some aerosol based silicone spray to dispel moisture and keep the stanchion "lubed"

As for keeping it clean.. I've pondered the idea of using Lizardskins Shock or Fork covers to protect the Joplin from the elements, but from experience and over 600 measured miles ridden with it I assure you they don't need protection

Sheep, your remote cable is routed similar to mine, I have my "joystick" on the right of my handlebars. I also piggy backed off my rear shifter cable with cable ties as the cables run down the side of the top tube. I used one adhesive cable guide to keep it in place.



Lastly you may notice that I have the reinforced outer rail clamp in natural colour. These are the outer clamps that hold the saddle rail on the post

A few months back I did an unexpected 5 foot drop off at over 20mph and landed with my full weight on the saddle as I lost the pedals. The standard outer clamps got damaged by my 210LBS+ weight slamming on to the rear of the saddle.
This caused some play on the outer clamps. I did knock them back into place with a mallet to finish the day's ride. Oh I did have a major off from that event and couldn't laugh for a week due to lightly bruised ribs and even more bruised ego

2Pure replaced them with the heavy duty outer rail clamps without any quibble at all and also serviced the Joplin free of charge. So, if you're a big chap like me you may want approach 2Pure for the uprated (fat b@stard/big boy version) of the outer rail clamp :¬)

As for the product.. it's the best upgrade I've ever done to my All Mountain, it does have it's uses and most certainly makes a difference when tackling "Oh My God" type descents,,

Anonymous

good call, i may well do that and ask for the uprated clamps, im a bit of a monster at 19 odd stone so would probably benefit from the reinforcing!!

i agree, they are an amzing bit of kit and completely change a ride. its strange how big a difference such a simple idea makes.

stumpyjon

Sorry, bit late to this thread but:

Cable routing, under the BB on my 07 Stumpy, used some longer outer than was provided. I actually routed it up through the bracket on my rear crud catcher by drilling a hole through the bracket, keeps the cable away from the frame although I am getting some wear on the rocker link. Given the state of the rest of the bike though I don't care.

Mounted my remote on the left to be fickle.

As for inner tubing, haven't bothered, no real problems so far, got a bit stiff a month or so back, wouldn't return all the way up but a quick clean and some Fox Float fluid under the red lock ring seems to have cured it. Minimal play 5 months into owning it, no worse than when I got it and not at all noticeable when riding.

Just keep it clean after each ride, think my rear crud catcher helps but I know not everyone wants to look 'gay' like me :roll: .

Only niggle I've had is the lock ring working loose during a ride, not enough to come off by any means, but not staying tight either. Only hand tightened it so far, may try tightening it with a pair of gloves on to see if it will stay put.

Overall a cracking bit of really sexy kit, no regrets from me, makes trail centres way more fun. You all get one now.

ads4

Didn't realise there was a remote Joplin available, thanks I thought the only remote one was the Specialised Command Post which is rather expensive.

owen908

Heres where i routed the cables. There isnt much need to protect the mechanism under the seat. A mud guard is ample enough.



I've had no end of problems with the Joplin. The seatpost frequently develops play in it (side to side movement) and requires a service every 10 or so hours of use. I had it change to the lever version but dont want to put it on my bike due to the hassle.

delcol

Raymondavalon

bearback are sponsered by crankbrothers i'm not confusing the joplin with with speedball,.. i was just answering sheeps question..
they use their bikes daily hours at a time so soon rack up milage...

like i said the one they were useing were from last year so i don't know if crankbrothers fixed the problems for 09...

Anonymous

have fitted a slight mod just to see if it work more thn anything. only time will tell if it is worth while but it should keep the crap out and away from the seals: