He dropped me like thunder drops rain! Ridley, 7.30am Balham

DonDaddyD
DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
edited August 2009 in Commuting chat
Blue pearson kit, white frames and yellow lenses. Ridley bike with 105 groupset and intergrated seatpost.

Mate, you were awesome.

I saw him turn onto the A3 at South Wimbledon. I was stopped at the lights. I wasn't trying but it took me all of Wimbledon and Colliers Wood to reel him in.

I then tailed him and eventually drafted him up the slight incline through Tooting. (My coy approach to drafting was similar to approaching a women for coitus... very much the same I was surprised he invited me in...). It was around 7-7.30am in the morning and the road was clear.

At the lights he mounted the pavement to get infront of a bus therby putting the bus between he and I. Once green I caught up to him, overtook and invited him to draft me along the Balham drag strip.

Past Balham tube I was on his wheel, he checked a shop window to see if I was there. He then flicked his right elbow out (what does this mean it was clearly a signal) and then opened the heavens in a biblical display of sprinting. I tried for two pedal strokes and gave up.

He dropped me like thunder drops rain! it was like an absolute truism of nature.

Awesome.
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Was it Chuck Norris?
  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    flicked the right elbow out? Changing gear fast - so he stepped up a gear and did a Cavendish :wink:
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  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Blue pearson kit, white frames and yellow lenses. Ridley bike with 105 groupset and intergrated seatpost.

    Mate, you were awesome.

    I saw him turn onto the A3 at South Wimbledon. I was stopped at the lights. I wasn't trying but it took me all of Wimbledon and Colliers Wood to reel him in.

    I then tailed him and eventually drafted him up the slight incline through Tooting. (My coy approach to drafting was similar to approaching a women for coitus... very much the same I was surprised he invited me in...). It was around 7-7.30am in the morning and the road was clear.

    At the lights he mounted the pavement to get infront of a bus therby putting the bus between he and I. Once green I caught up to him, overtook and invited him to draft me along the Balham drag strip.

    Past Balham tube I was on his wheel, he checked a shop window to see if I was there. He then flicked his right elbow out (what does this mean it was clearly a signal) and then opened the heavens in a biblical display of sprinting. I tried for two pedal strokes and gave up.

    He dropped me like thunder drops rain! it was like an absolute truism of nature.

    Awesome.

    It means he wants you to take the front and do your share of the work. he obviously got the arse when you didn't immediately move to the front :roll:

    However, I can't believe you were drafting DDD, you weren't really were you, after all, I mean, the man who has waxed lyrical over several posts regarding the dangers of drafting :wink:
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  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    Flick of the elbow means come through and do your share of the work lazy bastard!

    He sprinted off as he was sick of you drafting him.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    edited August 2009
    Rich158 wrote:

    It means he wants you to take the front and do your share of the work. he obviously got the ars* when you didn't immediately move to the front :roll:

    That was the thing, I did begin to move to the front. He didn't give me a chance.
    However, I can't believe you were drafting DDD, you weren't really were you, after all, I mean, the man who has waxed lyrical over several posts regarding the dangers of drafting :wink:

    I'm human first, Internet posting GOD, second.

    Humans are flawed and subject to contradiction and hipocrisy.

    To be fair it was 7am in the morning the road was clear, he was kitted out for a club run and didn't object/invited me in....
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  • Never heard or seen the elbow flick. will look out for that one.

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  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:

    It means he wants you to take the front and do your share of the work. he obviously got the ars* when you didn't immediately move to the front :roll:

    That was the thing, I did begin to move to the front. He didn't give me a chance.
    However, I can't believe you were drafting DDD, you weren't really were you, after all, I mean, the man who has waxed lyrical over several posts regarding the dangers of drafting :wink:

    I'm human first, Internet posting GOD, second.

    Humans are flawed and subject to contradiction and hipocrisy.

    To be fair it was 7am in the morning the road was clear, he was kitted out for a club run and didn't object/invited me in....

    tut, tut, tut........................................there's no excuses young man :wink:
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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    @DDD if you're gonna draft then you should take the time to learn the signals...
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    [troll]
    So, DDD, if someone drops you like a stone, are they necessarily a cycling god?
    [/troll]
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    I liked to add this is where SCR does get silly.

    All this 'I scalped a roadie in such a kit' is so daft.

    I count myself as a 'roadie'. I take part in amateur races and sportives. I take my riding serious and train accordingly. Most of my training takes place on my ride to the office. Intervals, hard, easy I have a programme of sorts and I follow it.

    You'll find that most of these other 'roadie's are the same and take their riding just as serious and train the same.

    With what happened here today guy is going along at a pace and another rider hit his back wheel. He thinks ok lets share the workload and get on with it. Problem is the person who has hit the wheel is just trying it on. Has no road riding etiquette thus a signal is given nothing happens roadie thinks 'bollox you you've held my wheel long enough I've asked for you to take up the front you haven't let's see if you can hold it now'. Off he goes.

    For me sometimes I'll rise to the bait and have ago especially doing intervals but most of the time why do i want to bother? I can be tapering, taking an easy run what do I gain in racing someone who may maintain for a mile or so but for more I doubt it.

    Let's get some reality back in this.

    Maybe I'm being a bit OTT but there is some real chest thumping here which is just ridiculous.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    @Gazzaputt

    I was actually just going to work doing my own training which was to do my commute in a certain gear and manage my speed. It so happened that 'Ridely' was riding at my speed (uphill) after reeling him in.

    Once back on a flat I overtook, going at my natural speed in that gear on a flat and he took my rear wheel.

    Next set of lights he was ahead and dropped my a$$.

    I acetually wasn't trying to SCR, I don't SCR on the Kharma, no point.

    The hand singal
    He flicked his elbow, I begun moving ahead of him as I thought "take the lead" is what it meant and then he dropped me. His actions made me rethink what the elbow flick meant.
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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Gazzaputt wrote:
    I liked to add this is where SCR does get silly.

    All this 'I scalped a roadie in such a kit' is so daft.

    I count myself as a 'roadie'. I take part in amateur races and sportives. I take my riding serious and train accordingly. Most of my training takes place on my ride to the office. Intervals, hard, easy I have a programme of sorts and I follow it.

    You'll find that most of these other 'roadie's are the same and take their riding just as serious and train the same.

    With what happened here today guy is going along at a pace and another rider hit his back wheel. He thinks ok lets share the workload and get on with it. Problem is the person who has hit the wheel is just trying it on. Has no road riding etiquette thus a signal is given nothing happens roadie thinks 'bollox you you've held my wheel long enough I've asked for you to take up the front you haven't let's see if you can hold it now'. Off he goes.

    For me sometimes I'll rise to the bait and have ago especially doing intervals but most of the time why do i want to bother? I can be tapering, taking an easy run what do I gain in racing someone who may maintain for a mile or so but for more I doubt it.

    Let's get some reality back in this.

    Maybe I'm being a bit OTT but there is some real chest thumping here which is just ridiculous.

    Chill out Gazza - SCR is always tongue in cheek!
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    @DonDaddyD wasn't aimed at your personally was a general rant.
  • Rockbuddy
    Rockbuddy Posts: 243
    Just wondering, what speed were you doing to catch and overtake? And at what speed did he decide to drop you? I mean if he shot of while still seated from 25mph+ that is quite awesome (well even if out of the saddle) but if you were doing a steady pace it's not so impressive...

    Just trying to gauge what you mean by "awesome" ???
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Rockbuddy wrote:
    Just wondering, what speed were you doing to catch and overtake? And at what speed did he decide to drop you? I mean if he shot of while still seated from 25mph+ that is quite awesome (well even if out of the saddle) but if you were doing a steady pace it's not so impressive...

    Just trying to gauge what you mean by "awesome" ???

    We were in the 20s... throughout the whole ride. He dropped me at 25mph.

    He did have Mavic Cosmic Carbon wheels...

    Also he was on the last cog and inner big ring on his bike until he dropped me where he simply switched to the big ring... that was the last thing I saw, then he was gone...
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  • Rockbuddy
    Rockbuddy Posts: 243
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Rockbuddy wrote:
    Just wondering, what speed were you doing to catch and overtake? And at what speed did he decide to drop you? I mean if he shot of while still seated from 25mph+ that is quite awesome (well even if out of the saddle) but if you were doing a steady pace it's not so impressive...

    Just trying to gauge what you mean by "awesome" ???

    We were in the 20s... throughout the whole ride. He dropped me at 25mph.

    He did have Mavic Cosmic Carbon wheels...

    Also he was on the last cog and inner big ring on his bike until he dropped me where he simply switched to the big ring... that was the last thing I saw, then he was gone...

    :shock: OK, that is pretty awesome, talking as someone who wouldn't be going anywhere near 25mph on my commute (unless down hill). Even with a 39 inner he would have had to be spinning fairly fast. However, if he kept up the RPM that would give him at least an extra 5mph so he would have been pulling off to 30mph+. Maybe not so impressive for the better cyclists hear but - wow :D
  • Bassjunkieuk
    Bassjunkieuk Posts: 4,232
    DDD I think I've spotted the problem..........you seem to be paying far to much bl00dy attention to his god-damn bike!!! We don't need a component by component run down of his steed or what bleeding gear he was in at any given time ;-) Maybe if you put the same amount of effort into riding then you'd have dropped his sorry a$$ :-D

    Sounds like a good ride tho, you chaps must have been ar$ing around ahead of me tho as I set out from my house around 7:30 this morning and hit the Drag Strip about 10-15 minutes after that so must have just missed the train of awesome :cry:
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Bass, you can get to Tooting Bec, from Thorton Heath in 10-15mins, without RLJing presumably....

    WTF!!!

    I guess "The THIGH GOD has spoken" huh?
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  • Bassjunkieuk
    Bassjunkieuk Posts: 4,232
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Bass, you can get to Tooting Bec, from Thorton Heath in 10-15mins, without RLJing presumably....

    WTF!!!

    I guess "The THIGH GOD has spoken" huh?

    That was an estimate based on the fact I left the house @ 7:30 and arrived @ work opposite St James choob station @ 8:05, see my post on the SCR thread - this mornings commute was a fecking flyer!
    As for route I set out from down the road from the Palace footie ground and follow Parchmore Road/Green Lane down to practically opposite Dever Cycles and then use the same route down to Balham (?) Waitrose that you showed me on the way to the Freewheel after we meet up at Streatham train station. Don't hit to many red lights on that stretch but did have a good sprint for an amber ;-D

    As for the last post it was very much tongue in cheek btw but it is rather impressive how much detail you pick up, I'm lucky if I can remember a color and brand but do understand that when you see a "special" bike you tend to remember things better!
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Bass, you can get to Tooting Bec, from Thorton Heath in 10-15mins, without RLJing presumably....

    WTF!!!

    I guess "The THIGH GOD has spoken" huh?

    That was an estimate based on the fact I left the house @ 7:30 and arrived @ work opposite St James choob station @ 8:05, see my post on the SCR thread - this mornings commute was a fecking flyer!
    As for route I set out from down the road from the Palace footie ground and follow Parchmore Road/Green Lane down to practically opposite Dever Cycles and then use the same route down to Balham (?) Waitrose that you showed me on the way to the Freewheel after we meet up at Streatham train station. Don't hit to many red lights on that stretch but did have a good sprint for an amber ;-D

    As for the last post it was very much tongue in cheek btw but it is rather impressive how much detail you pick up, I'm lucky if I can remember a color and brand but do understand that when you see a "special" bike you tend to remember things better!

    Dude Thornton Heath to St James tube in 35mph is awesome, tons of awesome. Can you die from awesome?

    Thinking about it, that is a solid route, even through Saint Retham (as my friend would call it) not too many traffic lights.

    No worries I'm amazed at how much detail my memory picks up (like remembering what Linsen wore in Wiltshire :oops: ). I'm a little geeky that way...
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  • Bassjunkieuk
    Bassjunkieuk Posts: 4,232
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    No worries I'm amazed at how much detail my memory picks up (like remembering what Linsen wore in Wiltshire :oops: ). I'm a little geeky that way...

    It's comments like this that will get you a restraining order.........

    Cheers BTW :-)
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  • DonDaddyD
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    I think the day before I was going on about her wearing a dress. So she stood in front of me and said how do I look... Positronic brain engaged, mental photo taken, archived and stored for all time.....
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  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    :lol: Oh DDD! You are so similar to my uber-nerdy friends apart from being a cyclist.

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  • Aidy
    Aidy Posts: 2,015
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Dude Thornton Heath to St James tube in 35mph is awesome, tons of awesome. Can you die from awesome?

    At 35 mph, or in 35 minutes?

    35 minutes is quick, but I wouldn't have thought massively so unless there's a lot there to slow you down normally.
  • itboffin
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    Oh DDD, the shame :oops:
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  • Stuey01
    Stuey01 Posts: 1,273
    DDD - get yourself some of these, that should up your awesome considerably.

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  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    The more I read this forum, the more I wish I lived in London now, just so I could take you all on in the mornings. :lol:

    I put the hammer down on most of my commutes and are going 23-30mph most of the time. It's a shame, because in Manchester there's virtually no commuters on bikes, so no competition. :(
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Bhima wrote:
    I put the hammer down on most of my commutes and are going 23-30mph most of the time.
    You know that this is faster than most pro cyclists' training rides, right? Do you live on top of a hill?
  • Stuey01
    Stuey01 Posts: 1,273
    Bhima wrote:
    I put the hammer down on most of my commutes and are going 23-30mph most of the time.
    You know that this is faster than most pro cyclists' training rides, right? Do you live on top of a hill?

    Hey, I go really fast on the internet too.
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  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    Bhima wrote:
    I put the hammer down on most of my commutes and are going 23-30mph most of the time.
    You know that this is faster than most pro cyclists' training rides, right? Do you live on top of a hill?

    No, not average speed, I just mean I'm always time-trialling it on the flats at that speed between the lights. Plus, i'm only doing it for half an hour.