Possibly the best Sub £1500 Build Ever

lfc_westy
lfc_westy Posts: 87
edited August 2009 in Amateur race
"SRAMtastic"

thats the only thing to describe my bike. I beat Planet X to it. I added SRAM to their Pro SL Carbon road frame. And i won.

Component list.

planet X pro SL carbon road frame

planet x model b wheels

sram rival - 53/39 CR, 175mm CA , 12/25 RC

selle italia troy lee desigs "phobia"

Deda Zero 100 stem

FSA headset [planet x clearance ]

Tifosi Carbon seat post

Continental GP attack and force tires.

specialized cork bartape

cinelli oversized alu handlebars, classic drops

some crappy old giant bottle cage

Total Price - £1350

Rode it for the first time today. With a tear in my eye as i beat my mentor up a hill. he says bad form. i say tough luck. it handles amazingly even on the worst roads. the brakes and gear system work like a orchestra and are smooth and fast. the saddle is extremely light and hard but you dont notice that. with decent padding its comfortable to some extent ! this bike is fast, like manageable and most of all a head turner. Ride with performance and ride with style !

The bike is sub £1500 and also sub 8Kg. You carnt get much better for that price can you ?

also it looks fantastic.

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It Never Gets Easier, you just get Faster and luckier.

UEA Road Captain

Planet X SL pro carbon - sram rival
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Comments

  • joshposh
    joshposh Posts: 673
    Sounds like a great build! You might have problems being a youth racer on that gearing though!
  • JC.152
    JC.152 Posts: 645
    looks good you need some white hudz now :wink:


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  • aaah i know i did order some , the sram super cork tape and hudz, they were out of stock :( :P
    It Never Gets Easier, you just get Faster and luckier.

    UEA Road Captain

    Planet X SL pro carbon - sram rival
  • C-S-B
    C-S-B Posts: 117
    any chance of a bigger picture? Looks very very nice in that small picture anyways- nice one 8)

    Also are the handlebars the vai palm ones?
  • yes they are, they got a massive palm oversize area !

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    It Never Gets Easier, you just get Faster and luckier.

    UEA Road Captain

    Planet X SL pro carbon - sram rival
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    Needs a white seatpost, stem, tyres, spokes & bottle. Too much black going on there... :wink:

    If you decide to go down the fixed-gear route, you can make super-light bikes for no money at all. I'm in the process of building one as a time trial bike, which totals up at £460 - and all the parts weigh 4.3 KG. :shock:
  • Bhima wrote:
    Needs a white seatpost, stem, tyres, spokes & bottle. Too much black going on there... :wink:

    If you decide to go down the fixed-gear route, you can make super-light bikes for no money at all. I'm in the process of building one as a time trial bike, which totals up at £460 - and all the parts weigh 4.3 KG. :shock:

    For the whole build? I call shananegans.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • best some £1500 bike, hmm, not as good as a scott cr1...

    nice bike either way...
  • gabriel959
    gabriel959 Posts: 4,227
    Not bad but I think I might have just done a tiny bit better
    :lol:

    Component list:
    Frame: Sabbath Silk Road Titanium
    Fork: Easton EA70 Carbon
    Wheels: Fulcrum Racing 3 Silver
    Tyres: Michelin Krylion Red 700x23
    Groupset: Full SRAM Rival 2009 with same gearing as yours
    Saddle: Charge Knife
    Stem: Alpha Q Prolite stem
    Seatpost: Alpha Q Pro Carbon Seatpost
    Handlebars: Outland oversized 6160 alu
    Headset: FSA Orbit


    All of this for £1360
    x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
    Commuting / Winter rides - Jamis Renegade Expert
    Pootling / Offroad - All-City Macho Man Disc
    Fast rides Cannondale SuperSix Ultegra
  • JC.152
    JC.152 Posts: 645
    are the sabbath ti frames the same as planetx's?or just similer

    http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/Ti_Pro_Road.html
  • evans doing scott cr1 team for £1350...crackin bike and top quality frame...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    JC.152 wrote:
    are the sabbath ti frames the same as planetx's?or just similer

    http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/Ti_Pro_Road.html

    Planet Xs are made by Lynskey (probably in China), Sabbath are made in China with different geometry/tube shapes etc. Otherwise, not much difference I would wager.
  • Ash_
    Ash_ Posts: 385
    Bhima wrote:
    I'm in the process of building one as a time trial bike, which totals up at £460 - and all the parts weigh 4.3 KG. :shock:

    I don't believe you!

    Let's have a parts list...
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    Frame & Forks - 1685g - Bought from China, no branding at all. (?) Think you can get loads of them on ebay. - £156
    Wheels - White Velocity Deep Vs. +Tyres & Tubes - 1411g - £205
    Handlebars - 3TTT Prima 220 - 225g - £40
    Drivetrain bits - 712g - Couldn't be arsed weighing them all individually at the time. All spares from the LBS - £55
    Saddle & Seatpost - Specialized Toupe & AX Lightness Europa - 166g + 118g - £Free

    Total - 4317g / £456

    Need a front brake though and maybe some bar tape.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Bhima wrote:
    Frame & Forks - 1685g - Bought from China, no branding at all. (?) Think you can get loads of them on ebay. - £156
    Wheels - White Velocity Deep Vs. +Tyres & Tubes - 1411g - £205
    Handlebars - 3TTT Prima 220 - 225g - £40
    Drivetrain bits - 712g - Couldn't be arsed weighing them all individually at the time. All spares from the LBS - £55
    Saddle & Seatpost - Specialized Toupe & AX Lightness Europa - 166g + 118g - £Free

    Total - 4317g / £456

    Need a front brake though and maybe some bar tape.

    The rims alone are 1.06kg, you are getting hubs, spokes, tubes, tyres and spokes that weigh 400grams?!?
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    edited August 2009
    Not the carbon ones.

    EDIT: They're not technically deep Vs, but made in the same mould as deep vs and out of carbon by the same factory.
  • Ash_
    Ash_ Posts: 385
    Bhima wrote:
    Frame & Forks - 1685g - Bought from China, no branding at all. (?) Think you can get loads of them on ebay. - £156
    Wheels - White Velocity Deep Vs. +Tyres & Tubes - 1411g - £205
    Handlebars - 3TTT Prima 220 - 225g - £40
    Drivetrain bits - 712g - Couldn't be arsed weighing them all individually at the time. All spares from the LBS - £55
    Saddle & Seatpost - Specialized Toupe & AX Lightness Europa - 166g + 118g - £Free

    Total - 4317g / £456

    Need a front brake though and maybe some bar tape.

    What NapD said, and:
    You haven't included a stem weight, or a headset, and by your own admission you are missing the brake, brake lever, bar tape, inner and outer cables for the brake.

    As for the drive train - I've just weighed an old Dura Ace track crankset, and it came it at slightly over 600g. What drivetrain are you using where the crankset, bottom bracket and sprocket only total 712? And does your LBS have any more of them if your weights are accurate? 'Cause for 55 quid I want one too!

    Grease and air will add another few grams too. You haven't factored those in!
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    Well, when I get back to the UK, i'll provide more details. In Poland currently.

    The drivetrain bits had holes drilled in em. No idea why, but that would save crazy ammounts of weight. They used to belong to a track racer who did loads of wind-tunnel testing, so I assume they're all safe to use and that there's some logical explaination behind that.

    Oh, I need to get a chain too. That's not on the list.

    As i've said in many threads now, i'm in the process of making the bike. :wink:
  • Slow1972
    Slow1972 Posts: 362
    More Bhima fantasy eh..... thought SRAM were the first to do a groupset for under 2Kgtotal weight yet you can build a whole bike for only 4.3Kg... only on planet Bhima me thinks.

    And can you tell me where I get those wheels from for that price, I'd like some
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    China.

    And I don't have the full groupset.
  • I've got a similar build Silk Road, 2008 Rival and Chris King bits. Nothing short of awesome to ride.
    gabriel959 wrote:
    Not bad but I think I might have just done a tiny bit better
    :lol:

    Component list:
    Frame: Sabbath Silk Road Titanium
    Fork: Easton EA70 Carbon
    Wheels: Fulcrum Racing 3 Silver
    Tyres: Michelin Krylion Red 700x23
    Groupset: Full SRAM Rival 2009 with same gearing as yours
    Saddle: Charge Knife
    Stem: Alpha Q Prolite stem
    Seatpost: Alpha Q Pro Carbon Seatpost
    Handlebars: Outland oversized 6160 alu
    Headset: FSA Orbit



    All of this for £1360
  • But what I have just forgotten to mention is it only weighs 3.76985873421 Kg, with a total build cost of £168.24 so far.
  • gabriel959
    gabriel959 Posts: 4,227
    hehehe, what chris king bits have you got? Headset?
    x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
    Commuting / Winter rides - Jamis Renegade Expert
    Pootling / Offroad - All-City Macho Man Disc
    Fast rides Cannondale SuperSix Ultegra
  • I love bhima. Is the bloke who gave you that saddle still handing them out?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • gabriel959 wrote:
    hehehe, what chris king bits have you got? Headset?

    The headset is King and the wheels are King hubs laced to Mavic CXP 33's. I may also get the BB when the time comes....

    It's amazing how comfortable the ride is with the 32 spoke wheels compares to the Bontrager Race Lites I used at first.
  • Slow1972
    Slow1972 Posts: 362
    Bhima wrote:
    And I don't have the full groupset.

    You may not have a full groupset from the same manufacturer but you're still going to need shifters, brake calipers, cables, chainset, BB, f&r mechs, chain, cassette etc and pedals

    Now tell you me you've got all that lot under 2Kg with cobbled together bits and pieces

    China - c'mon, give us a bit more info than that, that's a big country to go looking for a set of cheap wheels....
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Slow1972 wrote:
    Bhima wrote:
    And I don't have the full groupset.

    You may not have a full groupset from the same manufacturer but you're still going to need shifters, brake calipers, cables, chainset, BB, f&r mechs, chain, cassette etc and pedals

    Now tell you me you've got all that lot under 2Kg with cobbled together bits and pieces

    China - c'mon, give us a bit more info than that, that's a big country to go looking for a set of cheap wheels....

    To be fair, it's a fixed so no shifters, mechs, cassette, gear cables etc.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Slow1972 wrote:
    Bhima wrote:
    And I don't have the full groupset.

    You may not have a full groupset from the same manufacturer but you're still going to need shifters, brake calipers, cables, chainset, BB, f&r mechs, chain, cassette etc and pedals

    Now tell you me you've got all that lot under 2Kg with cobbled together bits and pieces

    China - c'mon, give us a bit more info than that, that's a big country to go looking for a set of cheap wheels....

    To be fair, it's a fixed so no shifters, mechs, cassette, gear cables etc.
  • Slow1972
    Slow1972 Posts: 362
    Fair point, I'd missed his fixed gear comment, assume he's still needing brakes though if he's building it for TTing
  • Ash_
    Ash_ Posts: 385
    Bhima wrote:
    The drivetrain bits had holes drilled in em. No idea why, but that would save crazy ammounts of weight. They used to belong to a track racer who did loads of wind-tunnel testing, so I assume they're all safe to use and that there's some logical explaination behind that.

    Wind tunnel testing won't determine the strength of a crankset. all it'd do is confirm that a crankset with lots of holes drilled in it is less aerodynamic than an unadulterated one.

    And how can the carbon rims you've got be made in the same moulds as true deep-section rims, without being the same, deep-section, shape?

    I'm really keen to see this bike when it's finished.

    I'm going to guess that the all-up weight will be 6.8kg.