how to fit fsa pig headset

swampi101
swampi101 Posts: 210
edited August 2009 in MTB workshop & tech
fsa pig ball headset came in the post today (£8 from CRC :) ) and decided to fit it out of boredom.

my LBS is a bit useless and are always 'booked up' for several months forward so taking it there wont be happening, and i dont have any specialist tools.

i took the forks out, removed the old bearings and all that, but now i dont know what to do :oops: . oops.

the top part of the headset seems too small for my headtube, not sure what i might be doing wrong, and i cant get the lower part of the old headset out of the headtube, it seems to be stuck. there is also a peice of the old headset stuck at the bottom of my steerer, which i need to replace with the FSA one.

anyone got any tips/instructions? pics available if needed.

Comments

  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Park tools has a guide.

    But have you bought the correct headset type for your frame? What frame is it?
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    i tried parktools but i didnt find it very helpful.

    i realised my headtube isnt straight, it gets wider at the top and bottom.
    2eoidch.jpg

    so basically the cups wont stay in will they?

    just phoned the bike shop, they cant take it until the 17th.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Mnay headtubes are like that,

    You may need a different sort of headset ie an internal zero stack type.

    Park Tools shows evey measurement and installation step you need.
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    so ive probably bought the wrong one then :lol: just as well it was only £8.

    ill have another look around parktools

    EDIT: yup ive bought the wrong one. i need a zero stack like you said, ive gone an hammered the FSA crown race down as well :(

    aha but just had a random idea, could i cut down part of the lower cup to make it fit? not sure if that would work but its an idea :?
  • The Big Cheese
    The Big Cheese Posts: 8,651
    swampi101 wrote:
    so ive probably bought the wrong one then :lol: just as well it was only £8.

    ill have another look around parktools

    EDIT: yup ive bought the wrong one. i need a zero stack like you said, ive gone an hammered the FSA crown race down as well :(

    aha but just had a random idea, could i cut down part of the lower cup to make it fit? not sure if that would work but its an idea :?

    NO - don't do it mate - just get the correct headset! :wink:
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    hehe, i figured. not alot of my ideas end up working :P

    ill try and put the old headset back together, i may end up getting a new frame soon anyways.
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    anyone have an idea what type of headset might fit? im looking on chain reaction but not sure what ones will work
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    diamondback sorrento 2006

    would any 45/45 integrated headset work?
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    I am not sure what it takes.

    I would contact Raleigh, or get the calipers out and measure it.

    What came off it?
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    got the calipers out and measured the top of the headtube.

    44m ID, 50mm OD

    where do i measure for stack height?
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    You need a standard Zero Stack headset.

    Have a look at the FSA Z headset.

    As they are low stack, and the old one was, it will fit.
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    the FSA Orbit Z? if so i was just looking at that, ill probably end up getting that
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    also, any tips for getting out a stiff lower cup? i tried hammering it with a bit of wood and a hammer but it wouldnt budge, used WD40 to try and loosen it was well.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Get the proper tool! And you'll need to fit the new one correctly too.
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    ouch £20 for a bit of metal. i think ill try a bit more before forking that out.

    and theres no way im paying £50 for a headset press that ill use once. block of wood and mallet all the way!
  • The Big Cheese
    The Big Cheese Posts: 8,651
    Or just nip down to your LBS and get him to do it all for about a tenner :wink:
  • swampi101
    swampi101 Posts: 210
    i would but they are booked up months ahead. they arent the type to just whip out a tool for 5 seconds and knock out a cup or two on the day :(
  • The Big Cheese
    The Big Cheese Posts: 8,651
    swampi101 wrote:
    i would but they are booked up months ahead. they arent the type to just whip out a tool for 5 seconds and knock out a cup or two on the day :(

    I know the feeling mate, my LBS is always booked up.....

    I need to send my frame off next week sometime, I will probably have to beg him to fit me in (should only take him half hour max) :cry:
  • UncleMonty
    UncleMonty Posts: 385
    swampi101 wrote:
    and theres no way im paying £50 for a headset press that ill use once. block of wood and mallet all the way!

    try making your own press like this with a long bolt, nuts & washers

    http://www.cicle.org/cicle_content/pivo ... php?id=961
  • rowlers
    rowlers Posts: 1,614
    The home made presses are sh|te! I made one, but th is nothing o keep the press or the cups central to the frame.

    They may work, but wasn't confident that pressing the cups in at odd angles wasn't going to damage the frame.
    I just phoned around the LBSs until I found one that would do it (the same afternoon too). Only charged me a fiver :D