Walking in cycle lanes
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which cycle lane are you talking about? One of the embankments?
No Girv. The one down Upper Arthur St (back of Ulster Bank by City Hall). I know its only a shortish street, but its run the gauntlet every morning. Another suit was dandering down it this morning (towards me). On appraoching him I had to stop and ask him politely if there was any chance he'd mind using the footpath. He just stood and looked at me like I'd just said "shooting puppies. now isn't that good harmless fun?"0 -
rally200 wrote:Porgy wrote:prj45 wrote:Replace "pedestrian" with "cyclist" and "cyclist" with "us car drivers" and this thread could live quite happily on Piston Heads.
I was waiting for this idiotic response.
Ha ha - as if pedestrians walked on the roads so much that the cars couldn;t get past.
I wish!
I was waiting for this imbecilic response to someones opinion.
if you're too busy, or too important to give a bit of courtesy to peds then take your stabilisers off and ride on the road.
EDIT - actually - it's not worth dignifying this tosh with a reply - I mean why post snidey pointelss comments on a thread you have no wish to contribute to? :roll:0 -
Dudu wrote:Porgy wrote:I'm convinced that most of the people who complain about seeing cyclists on the pavement have really seen a cyclist on a cycle path or shared use pavement.
People are idiots.
Similarly, I believe that most of those who complain about cyclists riding the wrong way along one-way streets have failed to notice the plug with a cycle lane at the end of the road or the cycle lane all the way along the street.
Added to which, most of the Great Unwashed seem unable to distinguish between the meanings of "One Way" and "No entry except cyclists", especially when they're in cars.
I was told off in no uncertain terms by a woman - who stepped out in front of me to make her point forcing me to stop that I was cycling the wrong way on a one way road. It wasn't a one way road though - part of that road is, but not the bit I was on.
Another time I had two burley blokes step in front of me to stop me and they pointed to the road. I pointed to the bleeding obvious green part of the pavement witht he cycle symbols on it.
They did look like they were ready to carry out violence on me, but suddenly went all sheepish and mumbles some sort of apolgy.
It's why I refuse to use on-pavement cycle lanes now - and instead have to put up with the tw@ts in vans and cars who now run me into the side of the road and tell me to get onto the cycle lane.0 -
RyanB wrote:No Girv. The one down Upper Arthur St (back of Ulster Bank by City Hall)
Ah yes, know it well. I'm in Gloucester Street round the corner
I never use that one because, well, it's always filled with pedestrians. Maybe I should mow a few down and leave their mangled corpses in the gutter as examples to others?
Actually, I think I will start using it now just to see what happens.Today is a good day to ride0 -
Porgy wrote:prj45 wrote:Replace "pedestrian" with "cyclist" and "cyclist" with "us car drivers" and this thread could live quite happily on Piston Heads.
I was waiting for this idiotic response.
Ha ha - as if pedestrians walked on the roads so much that the cars couldn;t get past.
I wish!
You obviously have never been near Murrayfield after a rugby game
I have a sneaky feeling taxi drivers take their customers that way on purpose :evil:
I am fairly sure it will be similar at any major football/rugby stadium after a game.None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.0 -
daviesee wrote:Porgy wrote:prj45 wrote:Replace "pedestrian" with "cyclist" and "cyclist" with "us car drivers" and this thread could live quite happily on Piston Heads.
I was waiting for this idiotic response.
Ha ha - as if pedestrians walked on the roads so much that the cars couldn;t get past.
I wish!
You obviously have never been near Murrayfield after a rugby game
I have a sneaky feeling taxi drivers take their customers that way on purpose :evil:
I am fairly sure it will be similar at any major football/rugby stadium after a game.
if this happened on a daily basis on every bit of road in the country then there would be some comparison. :roll:0 -
I commute 5 miles down the Bristol to Bath cyclepath every day and I'm amazed at how many pedestrians seem to forget to look behind them!. It's as if the 'behind you' dimension ceases to exist once they step onto the path. Of course, fiddling with your mobile or listening to an mp3 player is billions of times more important than looking where you are stepping. The clue is in the name: Bristo to Bath cycle path!."Anything for a weird life"
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You're railing against human nature. Got some sympathy with the complaints about peds on dedicated cycle lanes, but generally speaking if you're going to share pavement with peds you need to slow down. No amount of comment about how they should be more aware and more careful is going to change the fact that most of them wander about in a little world of their own, only popping out of it when they have to. I've had to do emergency stops in my car because a pedestrian has drifted out into the road without looking. And if they can do it for things which they've been conditioned to avoid before they learned to walk, they're going to do it on paths, and things which look like paths.
And of course, when I say 'them', I mean 'me when I'm walking'!. If you want to go fast, go on the road. If you want to go safe, go on the cycle tracks, but cut your speed in half and be prepared to do a lot of stopping and starting....0 -
mark1964 wrote:I commute 5 miles down the Bristol to Bath cyclepath every day and ...
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The clue is in the name: Bristo to Bath cycle path!.
Er, no... it is actually the Bristol & Bath Railway Path and is open to walkers and cyclists.
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Porgy wrote:daviesee wrote:Porgy wrote:prj45 wrote:Replace "pedestrian" with "cyclist" and "cyclist" with "us car drivers" and this thread could live quite happily on Piston Heads.
I was waiting for this idiotic response.
Ha ha - as if pedestrians walked on the roads so much that the cars couldn;t get past.
I wish!
You obviously have never been near Murrayfield after a rugby game
I have a sneaky feeling taxi drivers take their customers that way on purpose :evil:
I am fairly sure it will be similar at any major football/rugby stadium after a game.
if this happened on a daily basis on every bit of road in the country then there would be some comparison. :roll:
You gave a wish, I gave actual occurancies. More than a fair comparison I would think.
Back to the main thread. This country is getting more and more selfish as a hole (spelling on purpose :evil: ). It is a downward spiral that I don't see stopping but there is no need for it.
Everyone on all sides of all debates could do with calming down, enjoying the moment and stop rushing to the next problem.
Or wasting time on t'internet. Rant over None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.0 -
There's a shared cycle and pedestrian path on my route to and from work (Surrey Canal Road). Its quite amazing to see the number of pedestrians who get irate when your cycling on there.
They dont quite realise its shared!0 -
rhext wrote:You're railing against human nature. Got some sympathy with the complaints about peds on dedicated cycle lanes, but generally speaking if you're going to share pavement with peds you need to slow down. No amount of comment about how they should be more aware and more careful is going to change the fact that most of them wander about in a little world of their own, only popping out of it when they have to. I've had to do emergency stops in my car because a pedestrian has drifted out into the road without looking. And if they can do it for things which they've been conditioned to avoid before they learned to walk, they're going to do it on paths, and things which look like paths.
And of course, when I say 'them', I mean 'me when I'm walking'!. If you want to go fast, go on the road. If you want to go safe, go on the cycle tracks, but cut your speed in half and be prepared to do a lot of stopping and starting....
I think there's something in that for all of us....'Twas Mulga Bill, from Eaglehawk, that caught the cycling craze....0 -
Dudu wrote:The difference being that cycle paths are for the exclusive use of cyclists, pavements are for the exclusive use of pedestrians, while roads are open to all, on foot, bike,horse or car, unless they're motorways.
Are you sure about the bit in bold?_____________________
I'm part of the association!0 -
cygnet wrote:Dudu wrote:The difference being that cycle paths are for the exclusive use of cyclists, pavements are for the exclusive use of pedestrians, while roads are open to all, on foot, bike,horse or car, unless they're motorways.
Are you sure about the bit in bold?
Er, yeah.
Since when was it illegal for pedestrains to walk in cycle paths (or the road for that matter)?0 -
prj45 wrote:cygnet wrote:Dudu wrote:The difference being that cycle paths are for the exclusive use of cyclists, pavements are for the exclusive use of pedestrians, while roads are open to all, on foot, bike,horse or car, unless they're motorways.
Are you sure about the bit in bold?
Er, yeah.
Since when was it illegal for pedestrains to walk in cycle paths (or the road for that matter)?
Its not, but a pedestrian walking in a (designated) cycle path prevents a cyclist from using it, I understand however that the cyclist is (legally) not allowed to use the obvious route and go onto the footpath around the pedestrian, they have to stay on the cycle path, tinkle their little bell and hope that they will be allowed to pass.'Twas Mulga Bill, from Eaglehawk, that caught the cycling craze....0 -
I use the road rather than the cycle path shaped objects round these parts. It's usually full of people with a dog to owner ratio of around 3:1 and they are 'kin narrow.0
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chuckcork wrote:prj45 wrote:cygnet wrote:Dudu wrote:The difference being that cycle paths are for the exclusive use of cyclists, pavements are for the exclusive use of pedestrians, while roads are open to all, on foot, bike,horse or car, unless they're motorways.
Are you sure about the bit in bold?
Er, yeah.
Since when was it illegal for pedestrains to walk in cycle paths (or the road for that matter)?
Its not, but a pedestrian walking in a (designated) cycle path prevents a cyclist from using it, I understand however that the cyclist is (legally) not allowed to use the obvious route and go onto the footpath around the pedestrian, they have to stay on the cycle path, tinkle their little bell and hope that they will be allowed to pass.
I did my advanced driver training, blue light driver training and driving laws and exemptions for ambulances in March, we were told it IS ILLEGAL for pedestrians or any vehicle other than a bicycle to be in a dedicated cycle lane, this includes shared lanes with pedestrians.0 -
medicbiker wrote:chuckcork wrote:prj45 wrote:cygnet wrote:Dudu wrote:The difference being that cycle paths are for the exclusive use of cyclists, pavements are for the exclusive use of pedestrians, while roads are open to all, on foot, bike,horse or car, unless they're motorways.
Are you sure about the bit in bold?
Er, yeah.
Since when was it illegal for pedestrains to walk in cycle paths (or the road for that matter)?
Its not, but a pedestrian walking in a (designated) cycle path prevents a cyclist from using it, I understand however that the cyclist is (legally) not allowed to use the obvious route and go onto the footpath around the pedestrian, they have to stay on the cycle path, tinkle their little bell and hope that they will be allowed to pass.
I did my advanced driver training, blue light driver training and driving laws and exemptions for ambulances in March, we were told it IS ILLEGAL for pedestrians or any vehicle other than a bicycle to be in a dedicated cycle lane, this includes shared lanes with pedestrians.
Well that clearly doesn't make sense - how can it be illegal for pedestrians to be on a shared use path? Did you not question this "fact"?0 -
Sorry I should have been clearer, it is illegal for them to be on the cycle part of a shared cycle lane, they ahve to stay on the pedestrian part.0
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medicbiker wrote:Sorry I should have been clearer, it is illegal for them to be on the cycle part of a shared cycle lane, they ahve to stay on the pedestrian part.
I'll be very suprised if you can find proof in print or online.0 -
roger merriman wrote:medicbiker wrote:Sorry I should have been clearer, it is illegal for them to be on the cycle part of a shared cycle lane, they ahve to stay on the pedestrian part.
I'll be very suprised if you can find proof in print or online.
That's because it's not true - it's astounding the number of people who will take "facts" from people in authority at complete face value without considering that they may be BSing - or just idiots.0 -
medicbiker wrote:chuckcork wrote:prj45 wrote:cygnet wrote:Dudu wrote:The difference being that cycle paths are for the exclusive use of cyclists, pavements are for the exclusive use of pedestrians, while roads are open to all, on foot, bike,horse or car, unless they're motorways.
Are you sure about the bit in bold?
Er, yeah.
Since when was it illegal for pedestrains to walk in cycle paths (or the road for that matter)?
Its not, but a pedestrian walking in a (designated) cycle path prevents a cyclist from using it, I understand however that the cyclist is (legally) not allowed to use the obvious route and go onto the footpath around the pedestrian, they have to stay on the cycle path, tinkle their little bell and hope that they will be allowed to pass.
I did my advanced driver training, blue light driver training and driving laws and exemptions for ambulances in March, we were told it IS ILLEGAL for pedestrians or any vehicle other than a bicycle to be in a dedicated cycle lane, this includes shared lanes with pedestrians.
.. as the circular blue sign with a white bicycle on it indicates.___________________________________________
People need to be told what to do so badly they'll listen to anyone0 -
roger merriman wrote:medicbiker wrote:Sorry I should have been clearer, it is illegal for them to be on the cycle part of a shared cycle lane, they ahve to stay on the pedestrian part.
I'll be very suprised if you can find proof in print or online.
1. I understand it's illegal for vehicles to cross the solid white line of a mandatory cycle lane during the hours of operation.
2. I also believe[edit d] it's illegal for the cyclist to come out across the white line.
3. But other than that how can it be illegal for peds to be in a cycle lane, how would they cross it?
Oh, apparently item two is rubbish:
http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/ ... cle15.html
http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/ ... cle15.html0
