POSE method..?

jimmcdonnell
jimmcdonnell Posts: 328
edited July 2009 in Road beginners
GF runs marathons and ultras, and in conjunction with a coach is researching the POSE method of running, to improve her posture and general biomechanics.

The book she was recommended is actually a POSE triathlon guide - I'd never considered POSE as applicable to cycling, but I'm reading it with interest; any of you looked into it, or tried it? Does it work, is it significantly better/no different from how you've cycled previously? A search on the forums here didn't return any matching results, but I can't believe no-one here has heard of this or tried it out...
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  • Agent57
    Agent57 Posts: 2,300
    Never come across it, but I'm reading through the pages linked here now: http://www.posetech.com/training/archiv ... cling.html
    MTB commuter / 531c commuter / CR1 Team 2009 / RockHopper Pro Disc / 10 mile PB: 25:52 (Jun 2014)
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    plenty of 'POSErs' on here.....
  • jimmcdonnell
    jimmcdonnell Posts: 328
    Well that took longer than I thought - glad we've got the 'posers' bit out of our system now.

    I've been on the POSE website too, and skimming through the run/ride/swim POSE book that gf now has. Iit all sounds interesting enough, but still a bit too much like snake oil for me to give it any real credence without the backing of anyone who's actually tried it...
    Litespeed Tuscany, Hope/Open Pro, Ultegra, pulling an Extrawheel trailer, often as not.

    FCR 4 (I think?)
    Twitter: @jimjmcdonnell
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    Well that took longer than I thought - glad we've got the 'posers' bit out of our system now.

    sorry, I posted as quickly as I could....

    Looking on that POSE site - most of it just seems to be 'stating the obvious' to me. Granted, I'm not a beginner, but at the risk of being offensive I think you would have to be seriously clueless to find any of that stuff useful...
  • jimmcdonnell
    jimmcdonnell Posts: 328
    That's what I'm thinking too, so far. Apart from the sound advice about doing balance and pedal drills whilst trying to be very aware of your posture and range of movements, it seems a bit 'granny/egg-sucking'.

    I'm going to try the same post on the triathlon forum, see what they think...
    Litespeed Tuscany, Hope/Open Pro, Ultegra, pulling an Extrawheel trailer, often as not.

    FCR 4 (I think?)
    Twitter: @jimjmcdonnell
  • fatgit
    fatgit Posts: 166
    Is it me or is the section on clipless pedals missing the point slightly, they seem to think clipless pedals are just to keep your feet attached to the pedal whereas they are to enable you to pull as well as push.

    Can't say I will be paying attention to any of it!
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Never heard of it in relation to cycling. The comic did a feature on pedalling action a few years back and looked at a few pros styles - they were all different - so I dont see that there is one right way. Still - fills a chapter of the book eh ?
  • Woodchip
    Woodchip Posts: 205
    My word!!!!

    http://www.posetech.com/training/archives/000644.html

    I think it's official. My gran is now capable of sucking an entire chicken run, nevermind just the egg!!!!
    I have nothing more to say on the matter.
  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    fatgit wrote:
    Is it me or is the section on clipless pedals missing the point slightly, they seem to think clipless pedals are just to keep your feet attached to the pedal whereas they are to enable you to pull as well as push.

    Can't say I will be paying attention to any of it!
    I can't believe that any professional riders waste time trying to pull the pedal as well as pushing it. It seems to be a peculierly British obsession, like time trialing on fast dual carriageways. Try pedaling without pushing down at all, just pulling, and you will see that it generates so little power as not to be worth worrying about, as well as killing your calf muscles because they are not designed to work that way.
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    Pulling is very hand for going up short hills.
  • Woodchip
    Woodchip Posts: 205
    Smokin Joe wrote:
    fatgit wrote:
    Is it me or is the section on clipless pedals missing the point slightly, they seem to think clipless pedals are just to keep your feet attached to the pedal whereas they are to enable you to pull as well as push.

    Can't say I will be paying attention to any of it!
    I can't believe that any professional riders waste time trying to pull the pedal as well as pushing it. It seems to be a peculierly British obsession, like time trialing on fast dual carriageways. Try pedaling without pushing down at all, just pulling, and you will see that it generates so little power as not to be worth worrying about, as well as killing your calf muscles because they are not designed to work that way.
    I don't think it's so much pulling the pedal up as unweighting the pedal/foot. Quite a handy technique for MTBing (well, that's where I learnt it from anyway) as it teaches you to cycle in circles instead of stomping.
    I have nothing more to say on the matter.
  • Headhuunter
    Headhuunter Posts: 6,494
    I've heard of POSE running. There's another method called CHI I think...
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  • fatgit
    fatgit Posts: 166
    Woodchip wrote:
    I don't think it's so much pulling the pedal up as unweighting the pedal/foot. Quite a handy technique for MTBing (well, that's where I learnt it from anyway) as it teaches you to cycle in circles instead of stomping.

    I learnt it in rowing actually, rather than stopping and moving in th opposite direction it is far quicker and easier to bring the oars around in circles so you're always moving. Same applies to the pedals, if you're continuously putting pressure on them (however little) it is easier than stomping down and resting.

    I probably haven't explained it very well but it makes sense to me.